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FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 day ago“My example was perfect” then why was it so pathetically simple?
Because simple examples that anyone can understand while still making the point are the best examples.
You’re trying to show how AI will solve complex issues and you present something that a toddler could sort through.
Again though, this is just you not understanding a simple example. I’ll break it down for you even simpler.
- Marketing does not have access to the database.
- Marketing has a bunch of reports that have been made for them, available in their admin portal.
- Marketing wants a very specific, very customised list of people, but that report does not exist in the admin portal.
- AI Agent in Teams lets them describe this very specific, very customised report, and gives them the list. If they want to change it, they just ask again describing the changes that they want.
- Without AI Agents in Teams, they would have to create a support ticket to get a new report created by the developers, which would be triaged as low priority most likely, and be placed on the backlog and likely sit there for months.
Am I getting through to you at all?
I don’t know the specifics of how your company works/struggles to function.
The example was clearly spelled out that the people using the AI Agent DID NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE DATABASE TO GET THE DATA THAT THEY WANTED. You chose to just keep ignoring that fact because you wanted to try and prove that AI is useless.
How were people handling this data since before your little LLM tool?
See the support process above. If it was an urgent report, they would make a ticket and get it triaged as urgent, then a developer or database person would have to work with them to figure out exactly what they want, write the query, run it on the database, and give them the results. If it needs tweaking, they’d have to continually go back to the developer and have them change it and run it again, and again, and again.
Can you see the difference yet? Do you see why the AI Agent is a game changer for some employees?
Soup@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Except you obviously did not make your point. In fact, you made the opposite of your point.
You’re going to need to figure out why your language sucks because saying that marketting doesn’t have access to the database enough to filter through information manually but does have access enough to get that information through an LLM is just about the dumbest thing I’ve heard of. They either have access or they don’t, which is it? How come they can only view the information through a fucking chatbot?
And for the love all that is good and holy HOW THE FUCK WAS ANYTHING BEING DONE BEFORE THE AI AGENT?! ANSWER THE VERY SIMPLE QUESTION!
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 day ago
Ok so again, you’re really showing your complete lack of knowledge in IT here. Direct database access is completely locked down to a handful of IT people. Marketing, Finance, etc all have to use IT made reports and tools to see specific things that IT made for them. They cannot just go to the database and do “select * from purchases”. Unless a report etc exists that has exactly what they need, they can’t get it quickly.
With the copilot agent, they now can. They can’t make changes, it’s read only, and it’s only the tables and data that they are approved to have access to.
Are you with me? They didn’t have access to run custom queries on the database. Now, thanks to the AI bot, they do. Pretty simple.
I already answered that lol
The support process above, the list that starts with this:
This really isn’t hard to understand. The AI Agent means that IT don’t have to constantly run custom queries and make reports for other teams, because the other teams can now get the data that they want themselves in an easy to use non-techy way. They don’t need to learn SQL, they don’t need access to production VMs and DBs - they just talk to the AI agent in teams, as if it was a person.
Soup@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
My. Guy.
What is stopping you from making an interface that a human being can use instead of forcing them to go through a copilot agent? I’m assuming that the database is not a clumsily assorted stack of PDF reports or you would have said something by now(right?). All data would have some way of identifying it(sale instance was for X product in Y location for Z amount at [time], for example) and if you can integrate co-pilot than surely you can integrate something to handle that information, right?
Before the copilot agent, there was no system whatsoever for anyone to make reports because no one had access to the database? So they just hucked information into it and it was lost to time? What if an auditor came through and needed to see things? Did you just say “sorry, no one has access to the database and you’re going to have to wait until LLMs exist and FreedomAdvocate integrates one into the database”?
Look, dude, I’m ok with not understanding something but you haven’t given me any indication that what I’m asking for wouldn’t work. All you’ve said is “no that won’t work” and the most in-depth thing I’ve gotten is that “there are a lot of places to find the info” but never really elaborated on why that’s a significant problem or why co-pilot can handle it so vastly differently(and without missing anything).
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 11 hours ago
I have literally answered this multiple times lol. I’ll tell you where AGAIN:
What’s stopping me from making a “get whatever you want from the database without having to know a single thing about the database itself, and without having to know any database query languages” interface? Really?
Ok I can only assume you’re purposefully being ignorant now.
You fundamentally do not understand how databases and data access work. I’ve tried explaining it to you in the most basic of terms that even a 6 year old could understand, and you still don’t get it. You still keep saying I haven’t answered your question despite me answering it multiple times.
Do you have an IT background?