If everybody you meet is an asshole…
Comment on With how shitty some Christians are, you really have to wonder if Lucifer or Satan is truly "evil"
halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Lucifer’s crime was daring to question his father.
Bgugi@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Pudutr0n@feddit.cl 3 weeks ago
If you have come to understand lucifer as good and god as bad aren’t you just… ermm… nvm.
halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I mean… God literally commits genocide multiple times, and that’s just from the stories that they chose to actually include. Satan/Lucifer mostly tempts people to do things they want to do anyway.
Seems pretty cut and dry honestly.
Pudutr0n@feddit.cl 3 weeks ago
Nothing against rascals or tricksters here.
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Thinking critically? The dude demanding total obedience and subservience under the threat of eternal torture is not the good guy.
Pudutr0n@feddit.cl 2 weeks ago
Yeah! That! You know, or just playing nomenclature musical chairs.
ProbablyBaysean@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
No, I think his crime was that he wanted to take away the whole purpose of life aka living with choice between good and evil. Then the icing was that he wanted God’s glory to be given to him.
My understanding of the purpose of life is that we have no memory of before, we are faced with plausible good and evil choices, and finally we get some hardware that lasts (physical body). There is some irony that the option for evil comes first from lucifer.
ICCrawler@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
And then there’s the book of Job, the entirety of which is a story where God and Satan make a bet over a guy named Job. Satan says Job is only faithful because of the wealth God has granted him. God says Job is genuinely faithful, and tells Satan he can put Job to the test. So Satan has the entire guy’s family killed by bandits, he loses all his material possessions, and winds up plagued and homeless. Job mostly keeps his faith, yet he is persecuted by his friends (just verbally) who believe his sudden punishments are happening because he must have done something wrong and his faith must be false. Still, he holds out, mostly. Then, when he finally starts to actually crack, God shows up as a fucking whirlwind and goes on a long-ass ramble about how great he is, to which Job humbles himself. God’s response to this is to praise Job. He then chews out Job’s friends who persecuted him and demands they sacrifice 7 bulls and 7 rams and have Job pray for him because God is only gonna listen to Job, nevermind it was all a bet between God and Satan that led to this misunderstanding. Then Job is gifted twice what he had, 14000 sheep, 6000 camels, 1000 yoke of oxen, and 1000 female donkeys. A new family, with seven sons and three daughters, and of course the daughters are just the most beautiful daughters in the whole land. Then Job lived another 140 years.
Something something reading the Bible is the greatest proof you can ever need that it’s bullocks.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Children are fungible of course
AtariDump@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Like NFTs?
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
How attached are you to any of those tokens? Would any of equivalent value be more or less the same? If so yes
dil@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I liked the take on this story in good omens