I got 11 years out of mine. I had been wanting to upgrade it because it did not accept sensors.
Does it suck that it was still functional? Yup.
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db2@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This is exactly why I didn’t buy one of these or the Amazon version. I didn’t trust that the devices would work as long as they could function and was correct.
I got 11 years out of mine. I had been wanting to upgrade it because it did not accept sensors.
Does it suck that it was still functional? Yup.
I mean they could just unlock the dang things at let some industrious hacker make them useful again. Hell I’d pay like $10 for a firmware that would work with home assistant.
I would have paid for that as well. I would pay for that for my truck’s infotainment center as well.
Honestly I’d pay as much as $50 to unlock my Microsoft sync to CarPlay on my old explorer.
Are API calls to the device signed or whatever? At a minimum one could snoop traffic to rev-eng the API, then recreate it on a lan-only segment
I haven’t snooped on the traffic but at the very least it was encrypted back to google. And I wouldn’t be surprised if it was also signed somehow.  If it was easy, somebody would’ve already cracked it, especially with all the brouhaha about them dropping support.
I’ve got one but I bought it from Nest, not Google. TBH I’m surprised it was supported this long, not in a thankful way but because Google is so anti consumer. I didn’t realize the app didn’t work until I saw this post. I’m glad to find out now, not during a heatwave where I’m trying to cool the house when I’m driving home.
chillpanzee@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
I bought one a bunch of years ago. Maybe 10 years. It worked fine. Did it’s thing. Then for no reason google chooses to kill it. Fool me once.
AbidanYre@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That’s kind of their thing.
frongt@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
killedbygoogle.com
billwashere@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I wondered how long it would take for that url to pop up. I will never ever rely on any Google product. Except maybe Gmail but I have an alternative plan should that go belly up.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
there is now, they probably want one with AI/spying controls.
unphazed@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I replaced mine with a Sensi. 4 months with Nest, and it decided to confuse hot vs cold signals. Middle of August, it tried to “cool” my house at 3am, instead turning on the furnace, and just kept on going due to the temperature rising. For a week straight, I awoke to 90 degree temps in my house at 3:30 to 4am, and a nice heating bill. I had an hvac friend come over ad tell me in fact, yep, it’s sending signal to furnace, not ac. He checked the wiring, all good. He admitted he knew little of Nests, but said only an idiot would design a thermostat that could allow for a hot/cold signal switch without rewiring.
Brkdncr@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Heat/cool wiring is rarely correct, many thermostats will have a software option to reverse the wiring.
Sucks that yours got reset for no good reason but it’s probably for the best
unphazed@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I mean, I’m not a trained tech, but it isn’t hard to open up the heat pump and look at wires going in and looking at the thermostat and making sure they match. Although I admit someone ran stranded wire instead of solid core (one day I might try to fish a new wire). For now I just tinned the ends.
shalafi@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I have the same brand and didn’t program it correctly, though my wiring was on point. HVAC guy puzzled over it a few then called me over to show me what the cryptic options meant. Been solid for a few years now.
I’d like to see those options in the app, but if those were included people would fuck them up and blame the company. 🤷🏻