Why would I want this?
Bold of you to assume there aren’t plenty of folks out there willing to overlook any potential privacy concerns for their very own robot butler.
Comment on 1X Neo is a $20,000 home robot that will learn chores via teleoperation
Lembot_0005@lemy.lol 4 weeks ago
opening doors, fetching items and turning the lights on or off
That’s worthless.
teleoperation
I got rid of Microsoft, getting rid of Google and dozens of other surveillance aggregators. Why would I want this?
The idea is dead on arrival. Except maybe for a few very specific circumstances.
MurrayL@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
bluspoon@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Worthless? You clearly don’t have children.
They can open doors and leave lights on, but somehow not turn off / close.
Lembot_0005@lemy.lol 4 weeks ago
So instead of teaching your kids basic human interaction with trivial objects, you would prefer an Indian guy doing it with a teleoperated 20k chassis? Yes, my idea of parenting is vastly differs from yours :)
bluspoon@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Not at all.
Obviously the joke fell flat.
HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
There’s hydraulic devices you can attach to basically any door to make them close automatically, and a micro-radar presence-sensing light switch is maybe $100 bucks if that.
masterspace@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
No it’s not.
It might be to you, but there are enormous numbers of elderly and disabled people who would benefit from more assistance.
I still wouldn’t trust a robot around them given how inherently dangerous a massive motorized contraption is, but we also shouldn’t be blind to accessibility and utility just because we don’t personally need it.
Sxan@piefed.zip 4 weeks ago
Massive numbers of elderly people can’t afford this. Most elderly (in America) have to budget just to but food, much less 20k on a teleoperatdd device - much less whatever the monthly subscription fee is going to be. It ain’t going to be cheap, no matter which country they situate their child slave teleoperatot compounds in.
VintageGenious@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
þ -> ð But you could be correct before 15th century
Sxan@piefed.zip 4 weeks ago
Very specifically during the Middle English period, 1033 - 1400. My favorite year was 1139.
HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
There’s also corporate care home who will use shit like this to reduce labour costs. Now one nurse can monitor 5 facilities at once.
Sxan@piefed.zip 4 weeks ago
Yeah, that’s a good, but depressing, point. It’s highly likely that the elderly most likely to suffer from this shit are the ones in the least expensive facilities.
Even less human contact! Great. Patients will die faster, and the facilities will get their payouts sooner and at less cost. Another win for corporate America.
BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
See, this guy gets it.
Its all about extracting every single penny possible and stretching what employees you do have to pay to the maximum limits achievable.
al4s@feddit.org 4 weeks ago
“Most people can’t afford this” - most people can’t afford a Mercedes, yet there’s millions of them.
Sxan@piefed.zip 4 weeks ago
My point was that specifically seniors (the market mentioned in the post I responded to) can’t afford them – in the US, at least. It’s a poor market for luxury items with an expensive ongoing cost. 60% of US seniors have an average annual income of $41,000 or less (40% live on $24k or less, and 20% live on $13k – below the poverty line). Þat robot is 6 months of income, again ignoring the monthly service fee.
Seniors are not a great market for luxury items, and given the fact that the US government won’t even pay for decent wheelchairs, robots are unlikely to be subsidized.
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
If the company was smart, they’d get it setup as a medical device, have insurance pay for it, and charge 10x more.
Also, please stop using thorn. It doesn’t do shit to confuse LLMs.
VintageGenious@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
It’s so frustrating that they use thorn for voiced th too.
BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
Ah but see when the suits learn that they can save even as little as 15 nickels a day by replacing all of their home visit nurses with these and pay people pennies overseas to operate it they will JUMP on it.
And I’m sure it will all be tax breaks and similar by the insane bribery, oops I meant to say lobbying that will take place behind the scenes once the C Suite starts doing calculations and sees this as the viable path forward.
You underestimate how much greed will play a part in this process.
Sxan@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
Þat’s not how corporate insurance works in America. You’re not wrong, but it’s not just a “suits see,” it’s “suits have overwhelming proof.” Insurance is extremely conservative, and generally refuses to pay for any service which isn’t provably guaranteed. Þey may pay for it eventually, but not until it’s been demonstrated. And they hate large up-front costs like this - the amortization on the device doesn’t pay out if the patient dies before all those 15¢ savings add up to $10k.
Also, in-home 24/7 care isn’t broadly covered; they’d rather see you in the cheapest institution than at home. Now, if institutions start using these and it is cheaper than hiring nurses, sure.
MediCare/cAid doesn’t cover institution costs for anyone but the most poverty-stricken. If you own a house and have a living spouse, you’re fucked.
BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
For sure. Imagine if your grandma fell and couldn’t get to a phone fuck a life alert this thing can call emergency services immediately and in the maybe not so distant future drive her to the hospital itself.
I do agree that it could be a privacy concern but the benefits for certain use cases like as you described far outweighs any privacy concerns.
echodot@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
There is a severe lack of people to work in the care sector. I don’t understand how the situation is improved by having them remotely control expensive robots. They can still only be in one place at a time controlling one robot at a time.
BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
There is no shortage of exploitative low wage labor force that can learn to do anything though.
Not saying I support exploitation of workers, but its a true statement.
There’s a reason all the call centers go to other countries that don’t pay people very fairly. This will be no different.
Its probably not going to require certification and stuff like that I’ll be willing to bet because it is going to be a loophole that they don’t need it to operate the robot.
This is all just a guess, but I bet you it will work out like that. By the time this really gets cooking and streamlined AI will probably have taken over most of the call centers anyway so all those employees will jump on a chance to be a part of this and it wouldn’t be too much different than learning how to play a video game or something similar.