won’t care? yeah probably. aren’t intelligent enough? that’s an insane generalization, knowledgeable about technology != smart
Comment on Apple Reportedly Moving Ahead With Ads in Maps App
empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 hours agoBe realistic, not many people using apple devices (or any mobile devices tbh) are going to care or be intelligent enough to pull an open source alternative
Xylight@lemdro.id 6 hours ago
JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml 10 hours ago
Be more realistic and try it. You’ll find obsolete and missing information, no review, and no info about opening times. I’d be happy to use it, but quite frankly it lacks all the features I need.
Pika@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
this is me as well. I’m the /only/ person in my town that updates data on OSM, and if you leave the area its just a void of nothingness. Outside of the automatic survey info that gets added its a ghosttown.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
There are a few around me, but I still find very outdated info and make a bunch of updates. A business left a year ago, and I finally got around to replacing it with the new business.
OSM is great, but it’s super spotting for anything with any amount of variance. It’s fantastic for trains and whatnot that rarely change, but for what most people use Apple Maps/Google Maps for, it’s largely useless.
Luci@lemmy.ca 10 hours ago
What the heck did I (an iOS user) do to hurt you???
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 hours ago
Bought from Apple. Voted with your wallet to support the walled garden infrastructure, gave up all of your software freedom for a shiny interface, blue bubbles, and some casual marketing.
And now that users like you realized how fucked you really are once Apple decides it’s time to extract more value from you, now you come crawling to the OSS community for a path out of the walled garden.
I mean, the community will still help you. But I can’t say I like Apple users after years upon years hearing them sing praises about the walled garden and worshipping the company’s abuses at every step of the way. At least we warned you about when this would happen, I suppose. Maybe some of them will realize their mistakes. I doubt it.
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
I had four android phones from three different manufacturers die in less than a year, one of them wouldn’t put out any updates after a year either. I went back to iPhone and it lasted for four years.
I’m not voting with my wallet, I’m picking the device that causes the least amount of headache and just fucking works when I need it to. I have to have one of these to keep my job.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 hours ago
Let me guess. You’re one of the people who compared a full priced iPhone to an entry level android and were upset that the $150-200 device wasn’t comparable? That’s like buying a chromebook and expecting it to have the same specs as a top of the line Macbook (you have to find a device that has bang for buck, not be a cheapskate)
Also, you can shop around and find a device with a support lifetime shown on their website. Google does it. Samsung does it. Oneplus does it. Even fucking Motorola does it. If you install something like PostmarketOS, you can get a support lifetime after the manufacturer stops caring as well. Or install something like GrapheneOS on the Pixel line that’s untethered from google. They have a support lifetime on their website too.
Jumbie@lemmy.zip 3 hours ago
I don’t think you people fully grasp how insufferably dumb you seem with these opinions.
Luci@lemmy.ca 9 hours ago
[deleted]Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 hours ago
GrapheneOS and PostmarketOS are independently developed forks, not a “hacked android rom” (I guess you’re saying that to demonize the projects and imply ineptitude?), and have hardware support lists along with expected security support lifetimes if you’re willing to look.
Also, as I mentioned to the other commenter, every manufacturer should list the EOL support dates on their website. Just read that, and then pick accordingly. Or, and crazy thought here - look around for community reviews and recommendations! Don’t just go off Apple’s marketing! Wild concept!
(Also pinephone and Fairphone are two examples of Linux phones, but they aren’t super fleshed out yet so I wouldn’t recommend them either. Just find a device with a good EOL date and an unlocked bootloader.)
natecox@programming.dev 10 hours ago
“People using devices I don’t like are stupid” is among the dumbest of takes.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
No, it’s more that the average person will choose an iPhone or Android Phone and use whatever is built-in instead of looking for an alternative, and this describes the vast majority of people.
It’s not the device they picked, it’s that they’re part of the majority.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
The point is there’s no reason for android edglords to be all anagonistic and bring intelligence into it.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 hour ago
That doesn’t sound like Android edgelording to me.
JohnnyCash@sopuli.xyz 9 hours ago
The majority sucks if you’re a snowflake.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
No, the majority sucks at any particular area. It turns out that most people are good at a few things and bad at pretty much everything else. You don’t want a doctor doing your taxes, or a lawyer checking your teeth for cavities, because that’s not what they’re good at.
Most people only care about tech if it’s not working. They use whatever comes with the devices they buy and leave it at that, because why should they care further?
Tabula_stercore@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
People that like iphones hail Steve jobs. The guy that wore one single outfit because he hated choice, and made an operating system out of that believe system. On top of walled garden crap like not even being able to use Bluetooth for sending things around.
Yes the iPhone is pinnacle of stupid.
natecox@programming.dev 9 hours ago
I like my iPhone and I think Jobs was a twat.
The world does not exist in dichotomies like you’re asserting.
OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
None of what you said is true.
JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml 9 hours ago
Probably those iPhone users look at you and think that it’s so stupid to test several apps when the default ones work great.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 hours ago
Apple deliberately markets to those who willing to trade their virtual freedoms for a pseudo-luxury brand (with enough QC defects to kickstart Louis Rossmann’s career), a UI filled with (buggy) eye candy, “social status” (Blue bubbles) and “convenience” in the form of never having the option of installing software outside their walled garden.
With the exception of those who work at the company and are mandated to have a device, and those who use iOS for certain apps exclusive to the platform required for their employment, they are the technologically inept. Manuals scare them, a terminal prompt would make them jump up and call IT over right away. Installing an application manually is “scary”. If something went wrong with the hardware, they would throw away the device rather than fix it (thanks to Apple). Trying to explain to the the consequences of their choices is a fool’s errand.
They are the marketable, eager cult members for Apple to puppet on virtual strings. The only thing that surprises me is that they haven’t enshittified with ads sooner. I guess that impacts their “luxury” brand image.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
I’m not sure what an iphone user did to you exactly, but seek therapy.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 hours ago
Complain for years on end about the issues with their devices while simultaneously refusing to actually question whether they should stop buying Apple products.
Look, I live in silicon valley, I had to deal with family members and colleagues who had these exact issues in real time. Whenever they ask, “This sucks, is there a better way?” I would explain the circumstances and what phones/software would work as an alternative, and they would act repulsed, as if I offered them poison. “I only know how to use Apple! If I can’t get the same experience I’ll never switch!”
Then the very next year, same thing. Makes me want to tear my hair out when they ask me for assistance and refuse to actually consider why they have these issues in the first place.
natecox@programming.dev 9 hours ago
The dumbest of takes indeed.
I am a software engineer with literally decades of experience, I was self hosting websites on personal Linux boxes via dynamic dns before it was cool, and I basically live in my terminal. I’m a proud NixOS user and I spend about as much time shelled in over SSH as I do not.
I use an iPhone because it’s a fucking phone, I use it to browse the web and make calls. I just need it to stay out of my way and not crash.
Maybe deciding that which phone someone uses needs to be a core part of their identity is the actual problem.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 hours ago
So you’re saying you’re fine with the required Apple account, advertising, and data collection? That’s not getting in your way?
Being unable to use a browser that isn’t webkit/safari isn’t problematic?