Comment on Experts urge Government to ban supermarket bacon after link to 50,000 cancer cases

expatriado@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• Johandea@feddit.nu ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  let people choose if they want to live long or die happy

  Here’s your daily dose of fallacies: this is a false dichotomy.

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• Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The problem is that they get cancer and then run to the government for help.

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  • Grimy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    100%. Big reason why cigarettes should be banned as well. You can say people are allowed to make their own choices, but it’s the healthcare system that ends up overloaded. Other people are dying for their choices because they take up a bed in the cancer ward 20 years earlier then they should.

    Can’t imagine them banning bacon though.

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    • bollybing@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So the funny thing is that smokers are typically less strain on the healthcare system because they tend to die young.

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      • Grimy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        This goes against everything I’ve been told tbh. I can kind of see it, because of how pensions work, but idk.

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  • slothrop@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They’re certainly not dying ‘happy’.

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• floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  And enjoy paying for their healthcare. It’s good value for the country to prevent people doing entirely optional things that will burden the health service in the long run.

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• the_q@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Choice is an illusion.

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• PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You can absolutely make things that both taste good and also don’t cause cancer. This isn’t like “being vegan will extend your lifespan so everyone has to be vegan” type of thing, it is very directly a specific preservative they chose to put in that is straight-up killing people.

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  • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So is bacon even the problem, or just an ingredient they are often using in processing it?

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    • PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think it is nitrates. I mean, I am sure there are other preservatives that are harmful but nitrates is the class of chemical that usually is what is killing people in this context. Almost any type of “processed” meat is going to give you significantly elevated risk of cancer if you eat it regularly.

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      • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        From a quick search bacon contains 5.5mg of nitrate per 100g. My tap water contains about 20mg per pint. If this is such a problem then shouldn’t we be looking at the water companies first?

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