Comment on "A computer can never be held accountable. Therefore computers are a valuable tool for law enforcement and the ruling class."

QuantumTickle@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I feel like you’re missing the point.
  They’re not saying to jail computers, they’re saying be ware of political leaders using computers to abdicate responsibility.

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• snooggums@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  We also don't give the murderer a free pass because they used a gun.

  A tool is a tool, and the person who designed it or used it is responsible depending on why it caused a negative outcome.

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  • QuantumTickle@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

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    • snooggums@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      No, I agreed with you in a slightly different way.

      Great reading comprehension.

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• kibiz0r@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  We shut down companies for it though, and what AI vendors are doing is basically selling the ability to turn job roles into “accountability sinks”, where your true value is in taking the fall for AI when it gets it wrong (…enough that someone successfully sues).

  If you want to put it in gun terms: The AI vendors are selling a gun that automatically shoots at some targets but not others. The targets it recommends are almost always profitable in the short term, but not always legal. You must hire a person to sit next to the gun and stop it from shooting illegal targets. It can shoot 1000 targets per minute.

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  • JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Sounds like a fun job if the acceptable failure rate is like, 50%

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• over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The gun isn’t running software in the background when humans are away either. See my other comment, when shit goes sideways, blame the programmers, engineers, and now the CEOs that decided to jam screwy AI up our collective asses…

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  • QuantumTickle@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    We don’t jail gun manufacturers either.

    When a tool is used to kill a human, the user of the tool is guilty.

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    • atrielienz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      So when a kid commits suicide because the Generative AI LLM agreed with him in a harmful way?

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      • QuantumTickle@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        If a child shot themself, I’d blame the parents.

        Keep 'em coming. I can do this all day.

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    • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      When a human dies because a tool was designed with needless danger, the manufacturer is often prosecuted.

      But again, I think you’re missing the point.

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    • skulblaka@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      We don’t jail gun manufacturers either.

      Be a lot cooler if you did

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      • QuantumTickle@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        When guns have no legal uses, this is a direction we should go. Until then, this holds people accountable for other people misusing their product.

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  • mogranja@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Blame the programmers? Yeah, no. The software is owned by the company, blame them.

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    • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      • Google is built on Android
      • Android is built on Linux
      • Linux is open source

      So, I think that the open source developers should file a class action lawsuit for stealing their code.

      Go ahead, ask Linus Torvalds, I bet he’s not exactly happy with the current trajectory…

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