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• TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  There are anecdotes of people changing for the worse. I remember a poster who said his parents became Trump supporting bigots, even though growing up they taught OP not to be racist.

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  • Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I have no doubt thats true. The problem is that people are complex and just because they support one thing, doesnt mean they support all things. Id bet if you asked most people in 2016 why the voted for Trump, most would say something about the state of politics and “draining the swamp” sounded like a good thing.

    I guess its up to you if you see a difference between not caring/not being aware and supporting. I suppose the end result is the same, but it might make a difference when you talk to them?

    I saw someone else post in here about talking to their dad about the someone being raided by ICE. The dad said “maybe they were criminals?” and the commenter then launched into a tirade swearing and abusing their own father. Now, maybe the dad was a big Trumper, I dont know. The comment didnt make it clear. But IMO, if you want to change peoples minds or open their eyes past what their own self interest, then calling them names is the wrong way to go. Its only going to force them to double down, and well, we already saw what happens then. We got another 4 years of Trump…

    Social media has really made it so that most of us, are just unfiltered mega cunts. We dont talk to people most of the time. We talk at them, looking for any kind of small mistake, so we can jump on them and abuse them. Looking at Reddit for example when Trump won, when Brexit happened, when Trump won again, and you can see the utter shock and surprise because the echo chamber convinced them that they were in the right, and everyone else was wrong. IMO, what happened was that anyone who supported Trump or Brexit was just shouted down, abused, called names. So no one ever took the time to explain to them why these things were bad. One of the worst things that ever became popular to say on line was “Its not my job to educate you!”.

    Maybe the poster you remember, wasnt being 100% honest. Maybe his parents became Trump supporters because they fell for his bullshit? Maybe they supported some idea of what he was saying(draining the swamp/lowering taxes/etc etc) and the other stuff they didnt know about or care about? We need to learn to talk to each other again, without being snarky, or cunty, or even just feeling attacked because someone disagrees with us. We need to get out of the habit of assuming the worst, and a lot more of us need to get out of the habit of taking out years of repressed anger from being bullied onto other social media users.

    Thanks for coming to my ted talk lol. Sorry about the long read. Have a great weekend!

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