Comment on Have you all not notice there are NO communist countries?
Sunsofold@lemmings.world 1 day ago
One way to look at this is the concepts ‘communism’ and ‘country’ don’t really work together. The modern nation-state requires a level of bureaucracy and scaling that is not really compatible with communistic ideals of egalite. It should also be noted that there isn’t really a completely anything country. China calls itself communist but uses capitalist elements. America is arguably the most anti-communist country but uses plenty of centralized regulation and subsidies. And each has a subset that is deeply in favour of more or less of each of these elements. The idea of having anything ideologically pure is the real childish notion here.
MotoAsh@piefed.social 1 day ago
China isn’t not communist because they engage with capitalism… There not communist because their entire system isn’t communist…
When there’s one party, one ruler, and one set of people that get to rule over the rest … that’s specifically NOT communism.
Even if they didn’t engage with the world market, made every business a coop, they would still not be communist. At all.
Sunsofold@lemmings.world 1 day ago
That’s kind of why I think ‘country’ and ‘communist’ are not really compatible. I don’t think it is possible to have a faithful execution of communism at the scale of an area like China. They’re obviously closer to communism than some places but also just as obviously not there.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
What? Lmfao 🤣
China is not even remotelt close to communism, its an authoritarian state capitalist regime.
Sunsofold@lemmings.world 1 day ago
State capitalism is closer to communism than crony capitalism seen elsewhere.
MotoAsh@piefed.social 1 day ago
Yea, I agree in the general sense, although you will always have something akin to countries so long as the entire world isn’t literally communist. Thus making the distinction rather pointless.