Comment on X revokes paid blue check from United Auto Workers after strike called

• IHaveTwoCows@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Union-busting is absolutely part of the fascist agenda.

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  • aidan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Only after elected they absorb the union into the state. Before elections the Nazis backed many of the unions.

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    • orrk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      well no, the Nazis paid lip service to “workers” in general but literally got into bloody (as in armed paramilitary) conflicts with unions (Iron Front vs. SA) for years before the complete takeover of the government, after the takeover of the government almost all union organizers got sent to the concentration camps as political prisoners because “they were all Marxists”, the Nazis then replaced the unions with the German Labor Front (DAF), an organization that existed to keep the worker in his place, going as far as to literally take money from the workers to pay for building new production lines.

      so, no, they did not absorb the unions, and they definitely didn’t back the unions, unless you call strike-breaking with a machine gun “backing”

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      • aidan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yes, they had a ton of conflict with the more liberal unions, but they also organized Nazi aligned unions. They were not very successful at recruiting members to them but they tried to. Also, occasionally they cooperated with communist unions.

        the Nazis then replaced the unions with the German Labor Front (DAF)

        Yes, absorption? As in unions used to be allowed to exist as independent entities, then workers were forced to join the state “union”

        unless you call strike-breaking with a machine gun “backing”

        Source on Nazi strike breaking before 1932/3?

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    • IHaveTwoCows@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      So what you’re saying is that the Right are pro-union and are staunch defenders of worker’s rights

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      • aidan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        No? I don’t generally agree with how a lot of people group the right, the Nazis were a lot closer to the Soviets than they were capitalists. Furthermore, I didn’t say they were pro every Union, I said they supported unions that supported them.

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    • teuast@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is blatantly ahistorical and you’d almost have to deliberately keep yourself ignorant to think this.

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      • aidan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The KPD leadership initially first criticised but then supported the 1931 Prussian Landtag referendum, an unsuccessful attempt launched by the far-right Stahlhelm to bring down the social democrat state government of Prussia by means of a plebiscite; the KPD referred to the SA as “working people’s comrades” during this campaign.

        In November 1932, the KPD and the Nazis worked together in the Berlin transport workers’ strike.

        They had an entire organization for infiltrating unions to try to get support

        The NSBO had overall little success among German organized workers, except in certain regions where they supported strikes, such as the 1932 Berlin transport strike.

        Almost like exactly what I said.

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  • orangebussycat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    No, it’s part of the capitalist agenda and its a good thing. If you don’t want to do your job then quit. That goes for cops, UAW workers, teachers, and more.

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    • IHaveTwoCows@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No, it’s actually a very very very bad thing, as is the capitalist agenda, which has been an abject failure in accomplishing any of it’s claims.

      Also, getting you to turn power over to unelected and unaccountable wealth hoarders based on nothing but their wealth is also part of the capitalist agenda.

      Aslo, fuck you for your elitist bullshit and telling people to just change jobs. Seriously…fuck you.

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      • orangebussycat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You’ll understand when you’re older.

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    • teuast@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Union-busting is absolutely part of the fascist agenda.

      No, it’s part of the capitalist agenda

      That’s what they just said.

      and its a good thing.

      If you’re an obscenely wealthy ghoul who profits off the suffering of everyone who has less money than you, then yes. In all other cases, absolutely the fuck not.

      If you don’t want to do your job then quit. That goes for cops, UAW workers, teachers, and more.

      So you’d be happy if all the cops, auto workers, teachers, nurses, firefighters, etc. quit? You’d rather have massive and continuous societal upheaval than workers collectively bargaining for the right to make a decent living doing their jobs? I’d rather have a functioning society, personally, and that’s why I support unions and you should too.

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      • orangebussycat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Unions are labor cartels. They drive up the cost of goods and services.

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• schestophrenicwitz@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yeah it’s some business owner shutting down a union

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  • DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Like, unironically. Fascists are extremely anti-union.

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    • aidan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The Nazis and Soviets did the same thing about unions. Picked unions that had a lot of their backers in them and backed those, then once elected they created state ran unions and banned all others.

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      • orrk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        for the fascist please refer to my previous comment, for the Communists, the Bolsheviks didn’t have much to do with the small and numerous Russian unions (Russia had a very beurocratically decentralized industry at that point in time) and later fought against them as they mostly joined the white Russian faction (the bolsheviks being backed by the Entente), and ironically the term Tankie comes from an event where the soviet unions crushed mainly union uprisings against the soviets in Hungary, with tanks, because the soviets also couldn’t stand unions (like ever fascist ever)

        please stop repeating American Cold War era misinformation.

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• Leviathan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  That’s the union’s gonna tear the fascists down, down, down.

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