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AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Might be the unintelligible headline.

  Literally just needed to day “peak number of 18 year olds” and, suddenly, wow! A real phrase that makes sense!

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  • AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Possibly. It seemed like an obvious play on peak oil to me, but I guess not everybody got it

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• DomeGuy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Because, unlike oil, humans are a renewable resource.

  Like, oil, however, too many of us is unsustainable.

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  • AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    too many of us is unsustainable.

    That’s very much a problem of yesteryear, given that we’re currently doing below replacement rate globally.

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    • RunawayFixer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      To sustain the current amount of humans, we are using unsustainable methods. That makes us unsustainable as well.

      Some estimates from Wikipedia: “Climate change, excess nutrient loading (particularly nitrogen and phosphorus), increased ocean acidity, rapid biodiversity loss, and other global trends suggest humanity is causing global ecological degradation and threatening ecosystem services that human societies depend on.[9][10][11] Because these environmental impacts are all directly related to human numbers, recent estimates of a sustainable human population often suggest substantially lower figures, between 2 and 4 billion.[12][13][14] Paul R. Ehrlich stated in 2018 that the optimum population is between 1.5 and 2 billion.[15] Geographer Chris Tucker estimates that 3 billion is a sustainable number, provided human societies rapidly deploy less harmful technologies and best management practices.” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustainable_population

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      • AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Point being, not only is it an issue that we can do nothing about, it’s also an issue that is already going away by itself. So the only thing really worth discussing at this time is how to deal with the fallout of that trend

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• andrewta@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Why do you think it’s controversial? I don’t see any comments that would imply that

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  • AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The vote ratio

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    • andrewta@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Wow. That’s interesting

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