I guess op was pessimistic as was i and that’s the narrative that was/kind of pushed: It is going to come in one way or another. Instead of: It is not going to win and if it is we are not going to accept it.
Comment on EU Chat Control didnt pass - proving the media got to alot of you
Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
Isn’t this how liberal democracies are supposed to work? How exactly did “the media” get the better of “us”?
lowleekun@ani.social 1 day ago
Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 12 hours ago
Yeah, buy… It really is a horrible idea. Any media outcry is warranted. Not like right-wingers spouting nonsense of eating cats and dogs…
tabular@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Media covinced people that it was coming and it didn’t - my understanding of the argument.
SARGE@startrek.website 1 day ago
This is exactly the dumb shit take from y2k.
I Still hear people go on about how “it was supposed to be this big thing and then nothing happened! Smart people are so dumb!”
Yeah nothing happened because a lot of smart people worked very hard to fix the goddamn problem, you fucking shitwaffle.
Here? “You dum dums got so worked up thinking it would pass and then it didn’t, so the freak out was for nothing!” yeah it didn’t pass because a lot of Europeans got very upset about their governments trying to spy on them harder than ever.
I’m not European, so I can’t say how people talked about it openly on the metro with random strangers, but online? People were vocal and pissed. A PROPER government (lol can we have some of that functioning democracy please) listens to its people. This was them listening to the people.
The people’s reaction was appropriate, and necessary. And shouldn’t be lessened just because “lol you guys got so propaganda’d and it was obviously never gonna happen and I knew cause I’m so smart” is quite the take on things.
ashughes@feddit.uk 1 day ago
It reminds me of when climate hoaxers claim the hole in the ozone layer shrinking proves those campaigning to fix it were just fearmongering.
neatchee@piefed.social 1 day ago
I work on software security (not it/infosec) and deal with this constantly. Bad stuff didn’t happen so we can scale back security, right? No, shit for brains, either the bad stuff didn’t happen because we prevented it, or the bad stuff just hasn’t happened yet because the vulnerability wasn’t discovered, or worse still, the bad stuff DID happen and we haven’t been informed yet. Either way, please do not make my job harder.
portnull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 hours ago
vaccines also. nobody is getting sick so vaccines must be unneccessary
porcoesphino@mander.xyz 1 day ago
That seems like a statement. I’m still lost on how this answers the question
ripcord@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
They answered the second question. The problem is that OP was not actually posing anything coherent.
They’re alleging some made up media conspiracy that makes no sense and undermines the impact of the media on the outcome.
porcoesphino@mander.xyz 14 hours ago
OP was not actually posing anything coherent
Yeah, agreed.
I’m not hugely on board with the comment answering the second question though. For me, it’s a bit too similar to saying that meteorologists lied to us because they said there was a 60% chance of rain and it didn’t happen. In the context of this question its a lot more complicated than that though
Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 1 day ago
msage@programming.dev 19 hours ago
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