Comment on ICEBlock Owner After Apple Removes App: ‘We Are Determined to Fight This’

• blave@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  but the law is: just because you own something doesn’t mean you can do whatever you want with it.

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  • brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Except we aren’t talking about the law. We are talking about corporations that sell you something and then retain control over it.

    You have no say in the process, you have no representation. These are not rules that we as a society have determined to be in the best interests of all of us. These are unilateral decisions placed upon us. You have no recourse if you disagree other than don’t use the thing.

    Guns don’t prevent you from doing anything. You still have the capability to do whatever you want with the thing. However, if you use it in a manner than harms someone else, in a way that we as a society have proposed, voted, and created laws prohibiting, then you deal with the consequences. But that is very different from having something in the gun that prevents it from taking ammo from another manufacturer. Or making it unable to shoot unless you pay a monthly fee.

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    • blave@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Except we aren’t talking about the law.

      of course we are. in a society, we live by laws which govern our behavior.

      regardless of whether you can accept that, it’s the facts.

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      • brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        No. We weren’t. This discussion was about phones and the software we are being allowed to install on them.

        The law does nothing to restrict us in that capacity. The restrictions are imposed by the manufacturer of the phone.

        You made the fallacious false equivalency of comparing that with guns and laws.

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      • Kissaki@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        What makes you think the ICEBlock app removal is about the law or following the law?

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      • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The guy you’re replying to celebrated the political assassination of Charlie Kirk, so I wouldn’t bother If I was you.

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  • AbidanYre@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Right, you can’t break the law

    This is more like the gun manufacturer coming back two years after you bought it and preventing you from using bullets from a vendor they don’t approve of.

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    • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No it’s not. When you buy a gun you’re not buying it with web connected software running it that is constantly updated and changed, and is actually a selling point, that you knew about when you bought it, and that you agreed to.

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      • AbidanYre@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Taking away functionality is a selling point? What a load of bullshit.

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