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• GrantsGhost@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Thats Apples and Oranges. Owning a phone is not like owning a a gun.

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  • blave@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    but the law is: just because you own something doesn’t mean you can do whatever you want with it.

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    • brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Except we aren’t talking about the law. We are talking about corporations that sell you something and then retain control over it.

      You have no say in the process, you have no representation. These are not rules that we as a society have determined to be in the best interests of all of us. These are unilateral decisions placed upon us. You have no recourse if you disagree other than don’t use the thing.

      Guns don’t prevent you from doing anything. You still have the capability to do whatever you want with the thing. However, if you use it in a manner than harms someone else, in a way that we as a society have proposed, voted, and created laws prohibiting, then you deal with the consequences. But that is very different from having something in the gun that prevents it from taking ammo from another manufacturer. Or making it unable to shoot unless you pay a monthly fee.

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      • blave@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Except we aren’t talking about the law.

        of course we are. in a society, we live by laws which govern our behavior.

        regardless of whether you can accept that, it’s the facts.

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    • AbidanYre@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Right, you can’t break the law

      This is more like the gun manufacturer coming back two years after you bought it and preventing you from using bullets from a vendor they don’t approve of.

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      • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        No it’s not. When you buy a gun you’re not buying it with web connected software running it that is constantly updated and changed, and is actually a selling point, that you knew about when you bought it, and that you agreed to.

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• Cold_Brew_Enema@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What a fucking stupid moronic take. Go back to reddit

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• artyom@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They can do whatever they want with them, that’s why we have shootings.

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  • blave@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    no, they can’t, which is why they don’t just walk out free and clear after the massacre.

    lol

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    • artyom@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They can. That’s why they do. This is not complicated.

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      • blave@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        except that doesn’t happen. school shooters get caught (or kill themselves).

        show me the laws of any country where school shooters just walk away.

        it’s a fantasy

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• Attacker94@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If they don’t break the law then yes

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