I’m from Detroit, people have mixed feelings for him and always have. Gonna need a citation on the Eminem bit, who is nearly universally liked in Detroit.
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BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 3 weeks agohes credited with pretty much birthing the country-rap genre that has exploded in recent years. id say creating a genre is pretty legendary. and he had i think 3 hits just off of devil without a cause and a couple more after that and even before he blew up in popularity he was a detroit legend. there was a time he was giving advice to eminem himself on enunciating his words more clearly so everyone can understand what hes saying
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
there was a story eminem went to a kid rock signing and asked kid rock what he thought about ems mixtape
im inclined to believe it because eminem was on devil without a cause about a year before slim shady lp dropped
causepix@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
He isn’t even from Detroit. He grew up on a fucking apple orchard in a 1.3 million dollar home, with a guest house and a horse stable. Of course he’s a shithead.
BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
what’s that got to do with music exactly?
causepix@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Money doesn’t buy talent, and sure doesn’t buy culture, but it does buy expensive instruments and production equipment. More often than not it also buys industry recognition and other privileges above others that don’t have the same means, but that’s besides the point.
His entire career is built upon the appropriation of black culture; he started on the hip-hop scene. Only to take what he gained from that, strip black people and as much of their culture out of it as he could without making himself irrelevant, and use the resulting “rap rock” sound to pander to a broader more racist audience that would then cheer as he performed underneath white supremacist hate symbols. Once his fame was secured he would cleanse rap out of his sound entirely, and revert to country rock
He’s a cynical and talentless hack that formulated his music not as a tool of cultural or self expression, not for the sake of doing anything new, but for the purpose of self enrichment. To have the broadest appeal to an audience that wanted black cultural touchstones without black people involved in it, and would have rejected it if it were a black man in his place. He uses the spoils of his theft to support policies and politicians that are directly harmful to the people of the culture that he got his start from, and the city he takes credit for as a claim to fame. None of this points to him having any appreciation for music at all, other than as a scheme to become rich and famous.
So yeah, it’s no wonder his music has broad appeal within a certain audience, it wasn’t made for any purpose other than that. That doesn’t make it good. It’s a lifeless, blanched corpse of the culture he owes his career to.
That is what it has to do with music. Like it or not, all of these things are interconnected. Nothing exists in a vacuum. Music is culture is status is politics is history and so on.
BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
yeah but he made cowboy so really how can you fault him for any of that
Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Good for him. Country-rap is ass
elevenbones@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Hick-hop.
maximumbird@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Y’all ternative
BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
creating a genre is a flex whether you think so or not, especially one so popular. i dont even listen to it (because its ass as you say) but it 100% a flex
Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Just because you create something doesn’t automatically make it a good thing. I birthed a giant turd this morning and I thought it was incredible, when I showed my wife and son they didn’t like it so much. So just cause some people have horrible taste in music doesn’t make the creator a legend
BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
he changed the music scene and made some bangers idk why people are so up in arms about it