It will work. Even if they get 10 new subscribers, it probably took them 20 minutes to whip up this splash screen. They’re wasting much more of your time. And people have proven time and time again that they will get outraged but they’ll never actually do anything about it. They won’t stop playing Xbox. They won’t stop buying games. People grow increasingly accepting of advertising and invasive business practices every day. Remember how angry everyone was at horse armor? Most people wouldn’t think twice about it these days. It’s so much worse now.
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Oh that is gonna piss people off.
Your ads ar not gonna work the way you think they’ll work, when every person who sees them is gonna feel like it’s a middle finger.
artyom@piefed.social 21 hours ago
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 20 hours ago
It will work. Even if they get 10 new subscribers, it probably took them 20 minutes to whip up this splash screen. They’re wasting much more of your time. And people have proven time and time again that they will get outraged but they’ll never actually do anything about it.
For now. But eventually they do. That’s how entire governments have fallen time and time again.
They won’t stop playing Xbox. They won’t stop buying games. People grow increasingly accepting of advertising and invasive business practices every day.
Indeed. People can get used to a lot. But being used to something isn’t the same as being ok with it. No-one I know is ok with there being ads on their tvs, phones and laptops. Living with something isn’t the same as accepting it. People are tolerating more BS than ever, but that doesn’t mean they wont rally the second there’s a way out of it.
Remember how angry everyone was at horse armor? Most people wouldn’t think twice about it these days. It’s so much worse now.
I still am. So are many others. Remember when people thought NMS would be a good game on day one? Remember when Fallout 76 was going to be bigger and better than 4? Remember Concord? Remember when Overwatch was going to have a story?
Every fuckup, is another portion of the masses getting the memo. And the fuckups aren’t stopping. If anything there’s more of them than ever.
These corporations used to be afraid of looking bad, but mistakes happen. Except when they did, and stocks didn’t suddenly implode, their takeaway was they could horrible, and still make a profit. Because yeah, most people don’t learn the first time. But what about the second? Or the third? Or the tenth?
If you ask me, given time, the one thing every person on this planet can do, is learn. Eventually.
The only reason Roblox and Fortnite keep growing is that there are markets they haven’t penetrated. Finding new customers faster than the old ones leave doesn’t work forever. There are only so many humans on this planet.
Meanwhile, indie games with actual passion behind them and fair business practices that still feed the mouths of the devs, without private equity firms in the middle sucking up all the value, are absolutely exploding.
XBOX is dying. MS won’t say it, but they are less involved in the game-industry than ever. This price hike is a death-throw. Not the next step in their master plan to dominate the market forever.
IMO, the only gaming mega-corporation with the goodwill to exist 20 years from now is Nintendo, and even they are burning through the nostalgia people have for them faster than ever before in their insanely long history.
artyom@piefed.social 17 hours ago
But being used to something isn’t the same as being ok with it
Doesn’t matter if they’re okay with it or not, as long as they tolerate it and don’t do anything about it.
I still am. So are many others.
Sure but many many more have accepted it. Otherwise they never would have done it again.
Remember Concord?
Concord clearly had much bigger problems.
Remember when Overwatch was going to have a story?
I remember Overwatch still being a wild success regardless.
But what about the second? Or the third? Or the tenth?
We are on like 2905295734th now.
Meanwhile, indie games with actual passion behind them
Indie game studios could only ever dream of achieving the heights of revenue of games like Fortnite, that survives entirely on microtransactions.
the only gaming mega-corporation with the goodwill to exist 20 years from now is Nintendo
They are doing everything they can to screw their own customers and yet they pile in by the millions every time they have something new.
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 16 hours ago
Doesn’t matter if they’re okay with it or not, as long as they tolerate it and don’t do anything about it.
Not being happy about it is the first step on the road to doing something about it. How does that not matter?
Sure but many many more have accepted it. Otherwise they never would have done it again.
Who is doing it again? I’m not.
I remember Overwatch still being a wild success regardless.
Is it?
We are on like 2905295734th now.
And? It takes as many times as it takes.
Indie game studios could only ever dream of achieving the heights of revenue of games like Fortnite, that survives entirely on microtransactions.
Why? There are absolutely indies who’ve made millions. Why is there zero chance that one day, the next Fortnite or Roblox comes from an indie?
It already happened at least once. Minecraft.
They are doing everything they can to screw their own customers and yet they pile in by the millions every time they have something new.
Yes. But again. It takes as many times as it takes.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
They’re banking on people too young to know how to navigate past the screen to accidentally sign up for shit.
My one-year-old son accidentally got ahold of my TV remote and signed me back up for Netflix by pushing random buttons a month ago. Had to go through the TV and scour it of all the little pre-installed buy-me apps to make sure that couldn’t happen as easily again. Still not quite sure how to disable the “Netflix” button that’s built into the remote, shy of carving it out with a knife.
MrFinnbean@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
What the fuck? Lol. They are not cartoony villains preying for the old and weak.
Somebody has made a calculation, that shows that they will make more money from people who takes the deal than they are going to loose money from people who get mad and leave their enviroment.
In the future they will do test how far they can go using a/b test and/or testing different markets.
waterSticksToMyBalls@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
You might be able to open the remote and put a sticker over the netflix buttons contacts on the pcb
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
That’s a good idea. I’ll see if I can make it work.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 hours ago
If that doesn’t work check the board to see if you cant just drill through it.
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 22 hours ago
Yes. And that shit is a one-way door.
Every customer you piss off the way you are pissed off, is A LOT less likely to be a return customer.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Sure. But a lot of the marketing is geared towards younger people unfamiliar with the service. I remember getting deluged with ads my freshman year of high school and again my freshman year of college, for instance.
They’re banking on their unsubscribe process being so obnoxious that they’ll lose fewer people than they gain, year to year. And given the steady growth of revenues for these programs, it appears to work over the long term.
Yeah, you’re pissing people off. But when everyone operates this way, it just becomes the standard for accessing this form of entertainment. Like ad reels before a movie starts. “Well, I just won’t go to the movies!” is a hollow protest in the midst of the crowds of people fighting to get into the theater.
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 20 hours ago
Ok?
It’s not sustainable. Tricking people faster than they wise up to your BS is not a business model that leads to a healthy content, customer base. And if it’s what EVERYONE does, you get an unhappy SOCIETY.
No-one will enjoy where that leads, and is already leading.
It’s a ratcheting mechanism. Unless something about capitalism changes SIGNIFICANTLY the masses will simple become angrier and angrier.