Comment on The problem with overeating is that it feels really good
BurgerBaron@piefed.social 3 weeks agoI’ve quit a nicotine addiction of 11 years cold turkey. That was the easiest because I self regulated most of the time and never reached pack a day. More like pack a week max. Urge to smoke faded within a week.
I’ve quit a cannabis addiction of 8 years cold turkey. That was harder, because I vaped every hour I was conscious. So widthdrawal was pretty fucking awful, but I managed.
Food is crazy hard for me. I was in a 7/11 after every work shift. I got into a really bad delivery food habit during covid lockdowns. I hadn’t cooked my own meals regularly for over 12 years. It was fucking up my health and self esteem severely. I wasn’t a ham planet only because I’m abnormally tall. Still, ideal for me is 220lbs and my worst was 290lbs.
I did extended fasting. You can quit cold turkey, it’s the hardest thing I ever did. Had to give my roommate my pay cards to hide from myself when I was on work week or I’d keep breaking early. Deleted saved pay info from web browsers. First three days are the worst. I’d go 2-3 weeks in a row and then take a month break. Longer is too dangerous or I’m too risk adverse. Either way. Repeated until goal weight. Yadya Yadya drank mineral slurry to not die, not getting into it here.
After that the addictive urges to buy a bunch of candy, carbs, and junk food slowly faded but I had to learn new habits. That’s also very hard for a depressive person. I’ve managed so far to buy raw unprocessed foods for lunch (I don’t do breakfast) and my roommate and I take turns cooking calorie wise HelloFresh dinner meals for now. Slowly getting better at cooking. Eventually I’ll wean off of this service. I’m just trying not to relapse for now.
My mindset until I’m feeling confident is anything highly processed is an evil virus of capitalist satan and I have to avoid it lol. It’s easier since it’s in combination with boycotting American owned/imported everything that I can.
dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Very inspirational, thanks for sharing! What mineral slurry would you consume, if you don’t mind me asking? I quit cigarettes 8 years ago cold turkey no issues, I’m currently trying to muster willpower to wean myself off of cannabis, but binging food when I’m at home is still something I have not had much luck with yet.
baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’ve fasted before. Just three days so I can eat normally on the 4th and not having worry about refeeding syndrome. I’m pretty sure hes talking about your daily electrolyte requirements
Sodium: 1500 mg for adult men and womenPotassium: 3400 mg for adult men and 2600 mg for adult womenChloride: 2300 mg for adult men and womenMagnesium: 420 mg for adult men and 320 mg for adult womenCalcium: 1000 mg for adult men and 1200 mg for adult womenI bought nu salt(potassium chloride) and added that to regular salt to my jug of water(2L) and a Cal+Mag pill. I didn’t do long fasts so it didn’t really matter for me, but they are crucial for any extended fast.
BurgerBaron@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Nice yeah, you have the latest list.
With my 2-3 week long fasts I did have to worry about this. Basically @dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com you have to be careful not to eat too much right away. Eespecially not refined sugar/carbs, best to stick to tiny Keto diet meals at first because that’s what your body is doing during a fast anyways. You’ll be deep into Ketosis burning body fat for energy while fasted. You actually lose most of the weight by breathing it out in reality. For the first few meals you have to eat like a bird. Why is pretty straight forward to look up yourself / research.
Basically it’s to do with a huge insulin spike if you don’t heed this warning. Cells will all rapidly absorb electrolytes leading to dangerously low blood levels. Phosphorus is critical for ATP, you can get organ failure. Refeeding triggers water retention too and if it’s too rapid it can cause heart failure, arrhythmias, or sudden death. Hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) or thiamine (B1) deficiency as well.
This is also why if you eat for a few days Keto diet before starting a fast, the first few days won’t be nearly as hard to get through. Getting into a ketosis (not burning glucose) state before fasting helps a great deal.