Comment on Thoughts about responsibility
orgrinrt@lemmy.world 1 week agoYou are connecting things that aren’t connected, consolidating very different examples into one and same, but that’s neither helpful or productive. Oversimplifying to the point of confusing the very premise is making your point seem like nonsense, even if you have a trace of a valid point in there.
Responsibility does not work like you present it. Nor does freedom. There are different types of responsibility, and different types of freedom, with a scale for each, not a binary option.
Some of those responsibilities do go hand in hand with your proposed contrasting freedom, but not all. And all of that to a very much varying degree.
So when you ultimately connect it all to socialism, it just comes off as lazy critique against socialism, instead of a point about responsibilities vs. freedoms. Which just makes the entire thing moot, and finally explains the dissonance with the examples given.
Not a great contribution in my opinion. Just explaining my downvote as a general gesture of goodwill.
muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com 1 week ago
I feel this is just u rationalising ur downvote to urself. Plus my points don’t need to be good or well justified effective propaganda only cares how many times I say it.
orgrinrt@lemmy.world 1 week ago
That is what it is also, but doing it adjacent to your original comment, in public, makes it a gesture of goodwill in addition to that. I didn’t have to type it out and post it, but I felt I wanted to explain myself, and chose to do that as a comment and spend some of my time and energy, as a gesture, despite me not having to do that.
But you are also correct in your other point there.
However I didn’t intend to mean your post was propaganda if that was a sarcastic slight against me in that sense, just that I didn’t agree with the argument it tied to at the end, nor the examples chosen. But I felt there was an agreeable insight there about people avoiding the balance of responsibility vs. freedom at the start of the post, so I wanted to try and show my good will with a genuine gesture.