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So don’t expose it to the internet - which should be the default stance for anything.

The internet was (mistakenly and intentionally) built without security - that doesn’t mean we should just accept that, but instead build everything with our own security.

Numerous mesh VPN solutions exist: Hamachi has been around since at leas 2006. NeoRouter since at least 2012. Then we have Wireguard and Tailscale.

Business build their own tunnels between locations, using routers/gateways with that capability. Consumer routers from Linksys could do this in 2006.

Thwres zero excuse for running anything exposed to the internet.

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TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

So don’t expose it to the internet

No

Thwres zero excuse for running anything exposed to the internet.

…except this entire thread is based on a use case for it

With Plex you get to pay for those bugs and still have software that depends on a connection even though you’re hosting and viewing your own media, locally.

You’re condescending dude. I wouldn’t be using Plex if I didn’t understand like 37 things you’re implying I don’t understand here. I paid for it once, it was a good value for me, and I find it pretty weird that you apparently want to admonish me for that. If you want to use jellyfin have at it. I found it buggy to the point of barely being usable. Just sharing that experience and I don’t need anyone to agree with that.

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- possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Don’t expose stuff to the internet
  
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  - TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Are you advocating for an self hosting to only exist locally. Or are you advocating for hosting everything on corporate servers?
    
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    possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Don’t expose things to the internet
    
    That goes for corporate settings as well as personal stuff. You almost certainly do not need your self hosted services to be publicly accessible by bots. Anything on the internet gets pounded.
    
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- AbidanYre@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  
  …except this entire thread is based on a use case for it
  
  Except it’s not. OP is trying to watch stuff on his own network.
  
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  - TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Then they aren’t doing it correctly, or lying. That is an included/free feature. They advertise it that way and other users ITT say it works. I’ve no reason to doubt them.
    
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- non_burglar@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  The problems with Plex are not technical. The problems from Plex are that they take away features and change the terms of use to the detriment of the user. Given plex’s pricing changes over the last year, I would be concerned that your lifetime pass be affected by some policy change.
  
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  - TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Yes, they changed the free featureset, and afaik those changes were fair. Providing a tunnel for remote streaming for free doesn’t seem like a good business plan. I mean, yeah they could always back out of the promise of what a lifetime pass is, and if they do I will find a new solution and hope they’re sued for it.
    
    If they do back out of their lifetime commitment, I suspect that would drive some other similar apps to get better. Maybe I would even learn to live with jellyfin as it currently exists in that situation. But so far I don’t see a reason to, and that would almost have been true if I never paid for plex.
    
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    non_burglar@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Fair enough.
    
    I’m speaking from both sides here, having used Plex for years and now jellyfin:
    
    Don’t tie technical competence of a product with its monetary cost. They are not necessarily equivalent.
    
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