Comment on Supporting the future of the open web: Cloudflare is sponsoring Ladybird and Omarchy

asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• avidamoeba@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Perhaps Servo isn’t apolitical enough. 🥹

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  • Blisterexe@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I think that kinda weird and bad statement from the ladybird lead makes way more sense when you realize that his first language is german.

    German, like other gendered languages, uses the male gender for an unknown person, using a genderless pronoun like “they” in german is a deliberate political stance that would prompt debate and is unusual and, frankly, weird.

    Given that he apologized and changed it to they later, and no other incident of the sort happened since, I personally am willing to give him the benifit of the doubt.

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    • Quill7513@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      i take less issue with him using gendered pronouns by default than i do with him being overly dismissive of someone trying to adjust the language to be more inclusive.

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      • 4am@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Just remember that from his perspective, you are arguing against grammatical rules that are at the core of his communication experience due to his first language being German.‘so perhaps his initial reaction was confusion because he didn’t understand the angle - he thought he was being inclusive? Maybe?

        I dunno I’m probably playin devil’s advocate without all the information here; I’ve just been resisting making jokes connecting grammatical pedantry to Germany the whole time.

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      • floop@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        are you still alive, Nazi?

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    • avidamoeba@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You might be right.

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    • drmoose@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Gendered language is stupid and antiquated and I say this as a native speaker of a gendered language. It’s just such a poor communication design.

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    • warm@kbin.earth ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It was pointed out and could have been corrected easily, nobody was accusing them of doing it intentionally. Instead they doubled down, which then did show their views and caused the controversy.

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      • Blisterexe@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        He may have doubled down initially, but he later apologized and changed it.

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    • noverby@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      He is actually swedish, so your attempt to excuse his behaviour is simply wrong

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      • Blisterexe@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Could’ve sworn he was german, I don’t know where I got that from. Guess I was wrong

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  • teolan@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Or maybe servo didn’t mourn the fascist Charlie Kirk enough: This is Ladybird’s Creator.

    At least both projects funded by cloudflare support fascists. Omarchy is by DHH, who is not a good person

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    • avidamoeba@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Or maybe servo didn’t mourn the fascist Charlie Kirk enough: This is Ladybird’s Creator.

      Oh boy. Yeah, that’s pretty clear. Anyone putting Kirk in a positive position as a genuine debater of ideas has crossed the rubicon.

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  • kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Is it surprising to anyone?

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  • sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They doubled down and showed their true colors. AFAIK they never tried to improve the situation after that.

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• TheOneCurly@feddit.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They don’t appear to be sponsoring that one

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• SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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