Comment on "Pro-life" and "pro-choice" aren't actually opposite positions

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• Perspectivist@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It is possible to genuinely believe that abortion is equivalent to murder. I don’t see how you jump from there to them being anti-life.

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  • birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Because outlawing abortion can and will cause deaths. For example, if you have an ectopic pregnancy, that’s life threatening.

    Or what if you don’t want to have the child of a rapist? It feels like you’re being invaded, and you don’t want a child growing up without love. And abortion clinics aren’t present because of stupid reactionaries, so trenchcoat it is.

    Or what if you simply cannot afford to raise a child right now, and anticonception fails? Then abortion is necessary.

    Anti-abortion is murder.

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  • FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I was against abortion myself when I was younger. But even if you see it as murder, at some point you should realize the situation isn’t black and white and there are situations where abortion makes sense. A friend of my sister is having an abortion because the fetus has a rare condition where it’s intestines are growing on the outside and it won’t live long anyway if born. I would think most sensible people would at least be okay with abortion in situations like that. Why make a baby be born to suffer and die immediately?

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    • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The argument isn’t about rare foetal abnormalities. You’re using an edge case where abortion is justified to try and justify people using it as a sick form of contraception.

      Also, it would be nice if so called “pro-life” people supported helping the child stay alive after they’re born, like accessible food and healthcare for everyone

      Everyone I know who is pro life does. As well as advocacy organisations.

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      • Test_Tickles@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Talk about a straw man arguments… Holy shit dude, >people are dying because of bullshit beliefs like yours. No one is using abortions as some kind of regular birth control you fucking nutter.
        It’s a fucking medical procedure, people don’t choose to have medical procedures when there are much less dangerous and much much much cheaper options like condoms and the pill.

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  • MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Abortion is murder because fetuses are people, then fetuses are responsible for being up the snatches of people who don’t want them there

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    • Perspectivist@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That doesn’t make any sense.

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      • MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah, I forgot the first word. Fixed!

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    • meekah@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The fetus simply cannot be responsible for that. It didn’t exist when the decisions were made to create said fetus.

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      • MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Responsibility isn’t about who caused it in the past, it’s about who can fix it in the present.

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• Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That’s not what it’s about. Stop using strawmen to justify murdering innocent babies.

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