Comment on Pope Leo XIV dislikes AI, won’t authorise creation of AI Pope—"If we automate the whole world and only a few people have the means with which to more than just survive"~ there’s a big problem

• EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  That’s not a rule he can get rid of. The seal of confession is a matter of doctrine and divine law and the pope isn’t authorized to overrule god.

  And it’d be a dumbass idea anyway. If a criminal is coming to confession then there is some remorse for what they’ve done, which means that person might be encouraged to turn themselves in. If you started reporting them when they came to confession, it’ll work once or twice and then criminals would just stop going to confession.

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That’s fucking bullshit, sorry.

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    • EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      In many states priests are mandatory reporters.

      But they can’t be forced to abandon their religious beliefs by the government by breaking the seal of confession.

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      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        Then they should be prosecuted for it.

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• webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  FYI a dokter/psychiatrist is just as banned from exposing a confessed murder or rapist,

  What they do instead is highly encourage you to turn yourself in.

  The reason professional secrecy is so important is because the moment you leave the tiniest gap, no one will trust the profession anymore when processing the guilt of their own actions. Potentially making the problem worse. These people are not well in their head and require treatment, the bar for treatment must be as low and safe as can be.

  I believe Dokters do have a rule when you state the full intention to do harm a person in the near future they have to call law enforcement but i don’t think they need to provide information about the perpetrator if they aren’t the person in danger.

  This may be subject to specific local laws but i always assumed it was modeled after how the church did it, pastors used to act as primitive psychologists.

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  • poopkins@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Doctor patient confidentiality does not override the public interest.

    Have we resorted to stating overt lies now? The most basic internet search will provide you with reliable sources that show this absurd statement is untrue.

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    • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      No, i just know how to read.

      From your source:

      “disclosing personal information may be justified in the public interest if failure to do so may expose others to a risk of death or serious harm.”

      Admitting something happened in the past is not a risk something will happen in the future. I mentioned how they have an exception for when people are in danger in the near future in my comment.

      Also note how i said local laws may be different, this is a uk source. The professionals i asked this question where not from the UK.

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      • poopkins@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That is not the full paragraph. It reads:

        “If it is not practicable or appropriate to seek consent, and in exceptional cases where a patient has refused consent, disclosing personal information may be justified in the public interest if failure to do so may expose others to a risk of death or serious harm. The benefits to an individual or to society of the disclosure must outweigh both the patient’s and the public interest in keeping the information confidential.”

        Let’s not forget that you had previously stated:

        FYI a dokter/psychiatrist [sic] is just as banned from exposing a confessed murder or rapist,

        From this UK source, doctors are explicitly exempt from violating doctor-patient confidentiality in the aforementioned case. This directly contradicts your statement.

        I’m eager to read your referenced citations from the individuals you’ve interviewed in other regions where doctors would be banned in such cases.

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• Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  But can he?

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  • onslaught545@lemmy.zip ⁨17⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    It’s all made up bullshit, so yes.

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