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deaf_fish@midwest.social ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

Being pro-gay and protrans doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re not right-wing. It just means you don’t share the commonly held out groups. Unusual, yes, but a tell, not really.

If he was dropping some Marxist stuff, was interested in taxing the rich, or universal healthcare, then I would say he’s not right wing.

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Manmoth@lemmy.ml ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
So how do you know he’s right wing?

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- deaf_fish@midwest.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I don’t. I don’t really think the information points to a specific ideology at this point in time. I’d give the odds of them being conservative about 65%. He was born and raised in a Christian conservative family. In a religious conservative state. Gay hate can only really exist in an environment without gay people, same thing for people who hate trans people.
  
  Which hate comment are you talking about? I am not familiar, so this might change my opinion.
  
  As for not being far right enough, that’s easy. The online and professional media have been playing the game of who can be more extreme for a while now. I believe there’s a lot of conservatives out there who would be willing to kill someone on their same side for not being extreme enough. They would consider them traders, grifters, or not real conservatives.
  
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  - Manmoth@lemmy.ml ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    
    He was born and raised in a Christian conservative family. In a religious conservative state.
    
    The origin story of many gay people or future political leftists.
    
    Gay hate can only really exist in an environment without gay people, same thing for people who hate trans people.
    
    Assertion. It’s like saying you can’t hate men unless you grow up in a society without them. People hate all kinds of people for all kinds of reason. This argument doesn’t work.
    
    Which hate comment are you talking about?
    
    He said Kirk was spreading hate.
    
    I believe there’s a lot of conservatives out there who would be willing to kill someone on their same side for not being extreme enough.
    
    What you believe has nothing to do with what is true. There is no evidence that he thought Kirk wasnt extreme enough. In fact his hate comment indicates it could be the opposite. (e.g. that he saw Kirk as a Nazi that needed to be killed)
    
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    deaf_fish@midwest.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Holy poop you are coming on wrong and hard. I don’t know if the shooter conservative or not, but you desperately don’t want him to be. Probably because it would look bad for you if he was.
    
    You’re not interested in the truth, just a narrative.
    
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GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Deranged take, touch grass

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- deaf_fish@midwest.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Right back at you. Finger guns
  
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