So, far right parents in a conservative religion in a Republican town in a Republican state produced a child so tortured by a culture of hate and violence that as soon as they even start to lean either way their instinct is murder. Breaking the cycle of hate is relatively easy compared to breaking the cycle of violence. The statements they made to their roommate (even if that heresay is true) just confirm that they were a troubled child from a troubled culture trying to change. It should surprise no one that those childish attempts would be a VERY twisted reflection of the ideal. So no, he was not part of the left. Just a child in pain reacting the only way their conservative upbringing taught them.
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Manmoth@lemmy.ml 10 hours ago
His Mom said he had become more political lately. Specifically left-leaning, pro-gay and pro-trans. He left a note for his trans roommate that he was going to assassinate Kirk. He said that he “Had enough of Kirks hatred” in his discord chat and inscribed pro-trans, gay and antifascist rhetoric on the bullets.
the-independent.com/…/charlie-kirk-murder-suspect…
How is any of this right wing?
Wolf314159@startrek.website 8 hours ago
Manmoth@lemmy.ml 3 hours ago
What is the difference between center-right, right and far right in your view?
lemmyprnt@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
No true scotsman. Being against ideas of the right and killing someone for espousing them ipso facto is left.
AniZaeger@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
To a Nazi, anything less than pure, unadulterated Nazism is “left-leaning”.
Manmoth@lemmy.ml 9 hours ago
You could be characterized the same way.
orrk@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
No, not really, I mean some tankies out there are like that, but then again if your logic is on the level of tankies you’re most likely wrong. A right wing shooter killed Kirk, that’s just a fact.
Manmoth@lemmy.ml 3 hours ago
that’s just a fact
Should be easy for you to prove beyond any shadow of a doubt right now then.
tempest@lemmy.ca 10 hours ago
Can we get a link from The associate press or Reuters and not a British tabloid.
lemmyprnt@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Parents said their son became more political
While authorities say Robinson hasn’t been cooperating with investigators, they say his family and friends have been talking.
Robinson’s mother told investigators that their son had turned left politically in the last year and became more supportive of gay and transgender rights after dating someone who is transgender, Gray said.
Those decisions prompted several conversations in the household, especially between Robinson and his father. They had different political views and Robinson told his partner in a text that his dad had become a “diehard MAGA” since Trump was elected.
Mason added that the family’s views “differed quite significantly,” and the conversations were at times controversial between parents and son.
tempest@lemmy.ca 2 hours ago
Thank you.
GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
Is the BBC good enough? www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c99g1e0z2ero
Manmoth@lemmy.ml 9 hours ago
Sure. I suggest using this website: www.google.com
GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works 8 hours ago
Hey, checking the facts isn’t welcome here!
deaf_fish@midwest.social 10 hours ago
Being pro-gay and protrans doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re not right-wing. It just means you don’t share the commonly held out groups. Unusual, yes, but a tell, not really.
If he was dropping some Marxist stuff, was interested in taxing the rich, or universal healthcare, then I would say he’s not right wing.
Manmoth@lemmy.ml 10 hours ago
So how do you know he’s right wing?
deaf_fish@midwest.social 5 hours ago
I don’t. I don’t really think the information points to a specific ideology at this point in time. I’d give the odds of them being conservative about 65%. He was born and raised in a Christian conservative family. In a religious conservative state. Gay hate can only really exist in an environment without gay people, same thing for people who hate trans people.
Which hate comment are you talking about? I am not familiar, so this might change my opinion.
As for not being far right enough, that’s easy. The online and professional media have been playing the game of who can be more extreme for a while now. I believe there’s a lot of conservatives out there who would be willing to kill someone on their same side for not being extreme enough. They would consider them traders, grifters, or not real conservatives.
Manmoth@lemmy.ml 3 hours ago
The origin story of many gay people or future political leftists.
Assertion. It’s like saying you can’t hate men unless you grow up in a society without them. People hate all kinds of people for all kinds of reason. This argument doesn’t work.
He said Kirk was spreading hate.
What you believe has nothing to do with what is true. There is no evidence that he thought Kirk wasnt extreme enough. In fact his hate comment indicates it could be the opposite. (e.g. that he saw Kirk as a Nazi that needed to be killed)
GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
Deranged take, touch grass
deaf_fish@midwest.social 5 hours ago
Right back at you. Finger guns