Comment on Exactly Six Months Ago, the CEO of Anthropic Said That in Six Months AI Would Be Writing 90 Percent of Code

RedFrank24@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• lustyargonian@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  People are still pasting stuff? I thought by now agentic coding or AI in editors would be a norm.

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• Patches@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  To be fair.

  You could’ve asked some of those coworkers the same thing 5 years ago.

  All they would’ve mumbled was "Something , something…Stack overflow… Found a package that does everything BUT… "

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  • foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    yes, but it’s way more energy efficient to produce that garbage.

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    • jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      is the garbage per hour higher though?

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      • foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        don’t know, i do neither. but i think the time that users take for manual copying and adjusting from a quick web server’s response may level out the time an LLM takes.

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    • Honytawk@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I hate that argument.

      It is even more energy efficient to write your code on paper. So we should stop using computers entirely. /s

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      • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Are you aware of a little thing called the climate catastrophe that is unfolding as we speak?

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      • Mniot@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        We’re talking here about garbage code that we don’t want. If the choice is “let me commit bad code that causes problems or else I will quit using computers”… is this a dilemma for you?

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  • RedFrank24@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I like to think there’s a bit of a difference between copying something from stackoverflow and not being able to read what you just pasted from stackoverflow.

    Sure, you can be lazy and just paste something and trust that it works, but if someone asks you to read that code and know what it’s doing, you should be able to read it. Being able to read code is literally what you’re paid for.

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    • MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The difference you’re talking about is making an attempt to understand versus blindly copying, not using AI versus stackoverflow

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      • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        No, the AI was trained the same stack overflow posts as humans would manually search out in the past.

        Thus the effective difference is precisely that between an active attempt to understand and blindly copying since the AI is specifically there to introduce a stochastic opaqueness between truth (i.e. sufficiently curated training data) and interpretation of truth.

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  • orrk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    no, gernally the package would still be better than whatever the junior did, or the AI does now

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• HugeNerd@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  No one really knows what code does anymore. Not like in the day of 8 bit CPUs and 64K of RAM.

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• NikkiDimes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  That’s insane. Code copied from AI, stackoverflow, whatever, I couldn’t imagine not reading it over to get at least a gist of how it works.

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  • jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    insane? Nah, that’s just lazyness, and surprisingly effective at keeping a job for some amount of time

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  • DacoTaco@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Its imo the difference between being a code junkie and a senior dev/architect :/

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    • Honytawk@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I think the technical term is script kiddie

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      • DacoTaco@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Imo there is a difference between script.kiddie and coding junkie

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