Comment on 'An embarrassing failure of the US patent system': Videogame IP lawyer says Nintendo's latest patents on Pokémon mechanics 'should not have happened, full stop'

• ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Yeah… victory belonging to the person with the widest reach and deepest pockets rather than the originator of the material/idea is one way to ensure that all creatives become paupers. This is one of those many on-paper ideas that, without the upheaval of pretty much every other established human social structure, would be awful in practice.

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  • kureta@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Yeah… victory belonging to the person with the widest reach

    I thought you were going to say something about Spotify for a moment.

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• daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Because you will be paid for it?

  In the current world I could torrent your music and you’ll be “losing money” and will end up investing more work in anti-piracy and advertisement than in making good music.

  If instead you would be paid for the making of the music regardless of how many copies of a digital file you sold by a better system that’s not based on private property and the means of capitalism, it would mean that you could 100% focus on making music and everyone could enjoy the things you made.

  Everyone will be happy, except investors and people thriving of this inefficient and unfair system.

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  • AgentRocket@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    If instead you would be paid for the making of the music regardless of how many copies of a digital file you sold by a better system that’s not based on private property

    And how would that system decide how much you get paid and where would the money for that payment come from? How do you make sure a carefully crafted piece of music, that brings happiness to millions of people gets paid fairly compared to someone just putting together a song in 5 minutes by pressing random notes on the keyboard?

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    • floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      What is “fair compensation”, in this case, for you? Does bringing joy to millions of people entitle you to more money or do you see the happiness you shared and subsequent fame as part of your “payment” - what you get out of it?

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    • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Any system to evaluate compensation would be better than the actual one, which is a completely mess that does not properly compensate artists for their work.

      Currently marketing, frontstore presence and market dominance is far more relevant on a particular artist income than their craft.

      Any system that actually would think about what people think about a particular craft, how much time and effort got put into it, how much it was enjoyed, etc, would be better. Currently is just about who can make more sales and get more ad money, the art is secondary and I’m being generous.

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Ok but you’re literally describing a utopia. That is not a world that exists in reality.

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    • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      So is a world without murder. That doesn’t mean that we should defend murderers doesn’t it?

      A world where gay people had equal rights surely was an utopia on the year 1800s, look how far have we come. Thanks to people that though that a better word is, indeed, possible.

      Why wouldn’t we strive for a better way of doing things? Why defend faulty systems that we know they are bad just because those are the systems currently in place?

      I do believe we can be better.

      And if not… Piracy it is.

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      • MotoAsh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Just because we could do better doesn’t magically make teaeing all protections down a remotely intelligent idea.

        They’re asking for a SPECIFIC idea of what to replace them with… because you dummies will just end up reinventing IP laws without 70 year copyrights… like they were originally…

        This is a trains for public transit situation… You’ll whine all day about the status quo, say nothing good exists, want to tear it all down … and then just reinvent the same fucking thing we already have but just need a different mix of…

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      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I’m literally talking about how we should try to do better.

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• Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  99+% of art is never sold. The vast majority of artist don’t make money. Who really cares about the extreme minority who use capitalism to control our culture. They don’t get to decide what the rest of the world does purely for their economic interests.

  No they don’t need any mechanism. The arts and sciences existed for thousands of years without modern silly interpretations for commercial interests.

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    So for the artists that created works but did not sell them, you believe that they would be fine with someone else photocopying it and then selling it themselves?

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    • Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

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      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Why are y’all so fucking rude?

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