Comment on Microsoft still can't convince folks to upgrade to Windows 11

• tanisnikana@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Proton’s good, by the way. If gaming is holding you back, at least.

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  • CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    so good that i actually get more fps than i did so on windows

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  • Highlandcow@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I tried but I should probably figure out how proton works and try that

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    • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Proton is integrated with the Steam app in Linux, so usually you just install the game and then run it from Steam and it just works in Linux even though it’s a Windows game, without you having to know anything about Proton.

      Similarly with you can use something like Lutris or Heroic which does the same for Wine and game stores like GOG (it even integrated with the store and downloads the game for you, same as the Steam app).

      For some games you might have to end up to know enough to tweek settings, though for Steam and Proton that’s often just changing the Proton version you’re using for a game in its game launch setting in Steam, which is hardly complicated.

      The need to really understand what’s under the hood is generally only when leaving these standard paths: for example if you’re trying to run a pirated version of a game (which might even be for perfectly legit reasons: for example one of my Steam games won’t run in Linux no matter what I do, but the pirated version works fine, probably because of the DRM in the official version) or some old obscure game CD you have around, as the scripts in Steam, Lutris or Heroic that silently configure Proton/Wine correctly for a game might not at all exist for those unofficial or older installers.

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      • Highlandcow@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Yeah that last paragraph really hit the nail as to why I struggle with Linux gaming, especially playing games I downloaded off itchio too

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    • Passerby6497@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      If you’re willing to learn to use an atomic distro (meaning you can’t install stuff the normal way and the OS filesystem is read only), Bazzite is fantastic, has steam and proton pre installed and has been working amazing for me for a few months so far.

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      • Highlandcow@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Yeah the thing is alot of the games I want to play arnt on steam so sadly that wouldn’t work out well for me, thanks for the suggestion though

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• bobslaede@feddit.dk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  If you must use windows, and might want to upgrade to 11, lets say, for certain games, this project Flyoobe will help create a windows 11 install without all that bloat and ai

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  • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I would recommend for people not to install W11 just for a tiny handful of games. Most work on Linux. If they want to specifically add things to make it only work on Windows you shouldn’t reward them by following along. Find better games to play.

    The longer people play along with their game the longer they try to force people onto Windows. Until they are forced to support Linux you shouldn’t support them.

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    • bobslaede@feddit.dk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yeah, well… When the kids want to play Valorant with their friends, it is hard to tell them that thats too bad, because they dont support Linux.

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      • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        What if they had an Xbox and their friends were playing a PS exclusive game? Would you buy them the new console just so they can play that one game, or would you tell them that sucks but they can try to convince their friends to play a game that supports their system?

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    • tuoret@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Thats a noble principle but it doesn’t really work when the game is an older or somewhat obscure one without much developer support left. Especially online games that have some fuckery preventing them from running via proton/wine.

      I know it’s more of an edge case, but theres dozens of us holding onto some shitty 20-year old MMOs

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      • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Most older games work fine. It’s usually the newer ones that are the issue, with kernel level AC. For games to not work requires an active choice most of the time now. Of course, there are some exceptions.

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  • Highlandcow@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Thank you the link is much appreciated :D

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    • RmDebArc_5@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You can replace the default windows UI with an alternative shell like Open Shell (here’s a list. Not sure how reliable this works.

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      • Highlandcow@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Mhmhmmmh I might try this thank you :}

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• Passerby6497@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Look into 0patch.com

  Keeps you secure without having to pay Microsoft another red cent

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  • Highlandcow@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Thank you for this

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• Tetsuo@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Take their ESU extension to get one last year of W10 update. At least it gets you time to see if you can migrate on linux maybe.

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  • SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I’m planning on moving to the IoT edition of windows 10 when support ends. It’s supported till 2032. Hopefully by then the professional apps I need will be sorted out on Linux.

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  • Highlandcow@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Hmhm for sure

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