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AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

I’d love to switch. I would do it right now, but the problem is that Jellyfin’s security isn’t better if you open it up to the internet. For example, I’d have to set up a VPN for my remote users for proper security, and most of my users are in other states, not technically inclined, and watch on their TVs. I’d have to at least support a raspberry pi for them, or some sort of site to site VPN, and if it goes down, I’ll be expected to fix it. On top of that, if I do a simple raspberry pi based VPN, it would be made even more complicated since they’d want it to work with their smart TVs.

Again, I really want to switch. But Jellyfin needs to fix their security issues before I can. I’m also happy with the way Plex is reporting this, it’s above the standard “your data is lost” notifications.

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bagodogs@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Jellyfin is great… As long as you’re the only one who needs to access the server. I’ve switched to using Jellyfin myself, but I still run Plex for others to access.

I’ve found that I get a smoother playback experience on Jellyfin, but even outside of potential security issues, there are a still couple of features I miss from Plex.

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- Seefoo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  What are those features?
  
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  - bagodogs@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    One was automatic collections, but the plugin for this has since been updated, and the bug I was experiencing has been fixed. The one remaining feature that I’m missing is user ratings for media. On Plex I have automatic collections of movies that I’ve rated four and five stars, and it’s quite useful.
    
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exu@feditown.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Most of these require some form of random id to exploit, which leaves you either brute forcing ids or brute forcing a user account

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- MaggiWuerze@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  Again, its not random. It’s not a UUID. Its an md5 hash of the filepath. Which is easily guessable since most people have a very similar if not identical folder structure, especially since a lot have it managed by the *arr suite. take that plus the publicly available release names for movies and you’re done
  
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  - ChairmanMeow@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Put your files in a randomly named root folder and it’s fixed. Even still, isn’t the worst they could do pirating your service?
    
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    MaggiWuerze@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    No, the worst is that a company like Sony or their lawyers can find my server and create a list of movies I offer and then sue me over it. I live in a country where lawyers make a living doing nothing but that
    
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- AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  I mean, that’s fine, but it’s still an issue and a risk that would cause me to want to use VPN for remote viewing. It doesn’t seem like security is Jellyfin’s priority at the moment, not that it’s Plex’s either, but it’s not to a place where it’s worth it to switch from a security standpoint, personally.
  
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  - MaggiWuerze@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Plex has a whole team dedicated to security. It’s obviously not perfect and it is a larger attack surface than Jellyfin, but I’ll take that any day over devs who treat security as an afterthought
    
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    Orygin@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    You mean the security team that got pwned here?
    
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- FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  If you hand wave those away then you can’t possibly have any issue with Plex.
  
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  - exu@feditown.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    I don’t have an issue with Plex. I don’t use it
    
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binarytobis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
My big complaint with Jellyfin is that their documentation showed a “fast forward” hotkey that convinced me to switch from Plex, and when I started it up it was a misnamed “jump forward five seconds” button instead.

It’s still better for my needs, but I remain angry.

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atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
This is the same reason I haven’t switched. My parents use it to watch the local OTA channels and I have zero intention of supporting a site to site VPN on their home network and multiple mobile devices.

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TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Thank you for that issues link. I keep trying jellyfin every now and then and I run into issues with general bugginess so I haven’t been able to switch. Seeing that it’s kinda full of security holes makes me even more reticent.

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