Comment on Google admits the open web is in ‘rapid decline’

• Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Considering that many don’t even know anymore what a website actually is, or domains (especially TLDs that are not .com or <insert local one>)…

  Also take into account that people are lazy (not meant condescending). Using the major shit is easy, “everyone else does too!” and technologically challenged people can use it.

  Even IF selfhosted XYZ would be as easy as downloading something (it already starts to be “too complicated” for many) and executing it, it probably wouldn’t happen.

  I, personally, fear for the future of the web. I’ve seen the peak of the web and its constant accelerated decline since.

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  • mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah I know more than a few people fitting that description. But I do believe things can turn around. It’s less likely to make converts of people who already have that mentality, but things can resurge among new people and I think there’s a real movement there with tech literacy.

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    • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I sure hope so, yet am not as optimistic as you 😑

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• eldebryn@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  We need a startup to just make and try to sorta standardize a mini pc product pre-installed with a proxmox-like setup with an easy web interface and self-hosted solutions pre installed. 5-10 apps for main internet service needs like email, social media, content hosting/publishing and personal media libraries.

  Give it a cute name like “Web-Pal”, keep it open and Customizable for powerusers, watch the internet become a better place while you’re the household name for devices that are as essential as a router.

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  • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Great idea. From a nerd 😁

    But who do you think would be the target demographic? Critical users, that don’t want to use major crap but are also not suited for doing it all by themselves, either due to skill, time, money or a combination thereof?

    I wouldn’t think that group is significantly large. And definitely not large enough to seriously put a dent in the major crap apps.

    Better than nothing, but probably not worth investing in such a project. Sadly so, I might add.

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    • eldebryn@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Platforms keep getting shittier and more exploitative, while government thirst for control with things like Chat Control, OSA and whatever the US is doing.

      The more we see of that the easier it becomes to market a “your internet services in a box” to a layman.

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      • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        But first they have to care. The amount of people who don’t care for e.g. privacy - even if explained in detail - is flabbergasting. Even today I heard two times “why? I have nothing to hide” or “but WhatsApp is superior!”

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  • SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I think this is a really good idea. A baby server for every privacy concerned house. Make it simple enough that customizing software features is like putting together Legos, but leave in the potential for complexity as some users grow.

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  • skulblaka@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    If you could sell this for $500 or less you have yourself a customer

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  • mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Exactly my thinking. You could even have some sort of containerized environment so that people can easily just download and run containerized apps for various things. A podman image for your music server, for your photo hosting… almost like apps but less proprietary and less closed source

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    • eldebryn@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yup. I really wish we had an open source alternative to proxmox that used containers under the hood. Would make customizing and mounting external volumes much easier too.

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• eronth@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I love the idea, but until stuff simplifies significantly that’s simply not happening. I’m a moderately technical person and all the self hosting options are such a chore. Even simply looking up info about them can sometimes be harder than installing and starting the centralized option.

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