If you’re talking about the Steam feature you can safely turn it off, any modern AMD GPU running mesa radv (the default driver in most distros) should be sufficient to process shaders in real-time thanks to ACO.
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victorz@lemmy.world 2 days agoWhat if it hits around 90°C during Vulkan shader processing? 😅 Otherwise like 42–52 idle. How’s that? I’m wondering if my cooling is sufficient.
missphant@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
victorz@lemmy.world 2 days ago
What does it mean to “process shaders in real-time”? Wouldn’t it be objectively faster to process them ahead-of-time? Even if it’s only slightly faster while running the game?
I mean processing takes like a minute or so, so it’s no big deal. I’m just curious for the fun of it, if I can compile it on the GPU. Not sure it’s even possible.
missphant@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
What does it mean to “process shaders in real-time”?
Processing them as they’re loaded, quickly enough that there’s no noticeable frame drop. Usual LLVM based shader compilers aren’t fast enough for that but ACO is specifically written to compile shaders for AMD GPUs and makes this feasible.
Pre-compilation would in theory always yield higher 1% lows yes, but it’s not really worth the time hit anymore especially for games that constantly require a new cache to be built or have really long compilation times.
I think the one additional thing Steam does in that step is transcoding videos so they can be played back with Proton’s codec set but using something like Proton-GE, Proton-cachyos or Proton-EM solves this too.
Disclaimer: I don’t know how the deeply technical stuff of this works so this might not be exact.
victorz@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Huh.
Well like I said it only takes like a minute with half of my 32 threads utilized at 100 % (so all of my cores I guess?). Might as well keep doing it I suppose.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
How far back does that go? My AMD 6000 series GPU probably doesn’t need it, but what about my old laptop APU (3500U?).
OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Slight under volt, or upgrade cooler. 90c is too hot sustainably. Idle high 40s to 50s is not the best. Find a better air cooler or use a 240 AIO atleast.
victorz@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I did some quick research.
The idle temperature for the AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D can vary, but many users report it idling between 50-60°C, which is considered normal for this processor.
Under load, the Ryzen 9 9950X3D can reach temperatures up to 90°C, which is within the acceptable range for this CPU.
I feel confident now. My CPU and cooling seems perfectly nominal. 😌👌
OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
If your running that CPU then you almost certainly have done research or have money. Either way. Enjoy the setup you’ve got a good cooler and CPU it seems.
iopq@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Not true, 95C is the rated safe operating temperature
OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
95c is damn near boiling at 203f. That is too hot to sustain any good longevity of a part, and any good workload for any component in a PC. That is a lot of heat. You will not get the best performance for a processor at its maximum temperatures running it like that all the time or even close to its max operating temp. I’m not saying you can’t hit that number but ideally you really really shouldn’t.
So what I said I think stands. Upgrade to a better air cooler and if need be a water cooler at least a 240AIO nothing smaller period. Keep temps lower and parts last longer. Performance boosts during core loads hold clocks longer. No question.
iopq@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
The processor is not made out of water so the boiling point of water doesn’t affect it
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Your CPU isn’t made of water. Yes, this is safe to do. The manufacture is on the hook for warranties if this goes wrong, and they know it.
The main concern would be lower quality electrolytic capacitors on the motherboard VRM, but they tend not to use low quality caps these days except maybe on budget boards.
victorz@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Near the boiling point of water, sure. I don’t have any water in my system, though. Unless there’s water in the cooling paste? I dunno.
Anyway, there’s a lot of saying this and saying that in these replies to my question, so I think I’ll do some proper research instead. 😅
victorz@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You got a better suggestion for an air cooler than this one that I have?
Much appreciated.
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
AMDs 7000 series CPUs were designed to boost until they hit 95c, then maintain those temps. 9000 series behaves differently for boosting, but the silicon can handle it.
victorz@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Okay cool, then I feel more confident. This is only my second build, ever, so I’m a little bit nervous. I didn’t buy any extra fans apart from the ones that came with my case. But I did get that beasty Noctua gen 2 air cooler, and it seems to be holding so far, even in the hot summer air.
Glitchvid@lemmy.world 2 days ago
It’s fine, modern CPUs boost until they either hit amperage, voltage, or thermal constraints, assuming the motherboard isn’t behaving badly then the upper limits for all of those are safe to be at perpetually.