Comment on Hypothesis: Insufficient moderation tools lead to instance protectionism, which leads to a decline in the overall discussion quality on Lemmy

• Scew@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Think those are just called forums?

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  • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yes, what I mean is instead of having separate forums for everything, a Reddit/Lemmy type platform where people can create their own community to start threads. So if I wanted I could create a tractor community with sub communities for different brands and in there would be a single discussion to discuss a specific model, but my credentials would also allow me to go on the cooking community, in the baking sub community to take part in a discussion on strawberry shortcakes that’s been going on for months…

    Reddit type “forums” just lead to the same questions/content being posted again and again and if you know a lot about a subject and just happen to miss the one time someone asks a question about it then that discussion is lost to time.

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    • Scew@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ah, I see what you mean. I feel like that adds a lot of moderation overhead though because it needs people there to stop nefarious grave-digging.

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      • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Instead of resurrecting old posts, on Reddit/Lemmy you have people asking the same question again and again and again… On the cars subreddit you have the same “most interesting 5k$ car for sale around where you live” post getting created every few weeks, on a bulletin board you would have a single thread and people would just post new stuff when it comes out, the thread would come back to the top of the community’s front page and those interested would go check the newer reply…

        I’m honestly surprised how many people that reply to me don’t seem to have experienced bulletin boards considering they’re still the place that “experts” hang on for most things (vs Reddit that is a better fit for enthusiasts that don’t want very technical info)…

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    • Sunforged@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Kind of like if there was a Lemmy Star Trek server and it hosted a bunch of communities with different topics that are all related to Star Trek?

      The architecture is in place to do what you’re talking about. Just needs the right people to adopt the approach over time.

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      • shagie@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Lemmy Star Trek server

        That would be startrek.website

        • !risa@startrek.website – Memes
        • !startrek@startrek.website – General trek discussion
        • !quarks@startrek.website – Trek adjacent discussion
        • !daystrominstitute@startrek.website – In-depth trek discussion
        • !startrekonline@startrek.website – Startrek Online - the game.

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      • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yes and no, the bulletin board system leads to more in depth discussions than anything you’ll ever get on the Reddit system of discussions that don’t get bumped…

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  • marcos@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Some things like federated identities, or even federated content would go a long way into making forums a thing again.

    I still think lemmy could use a “community type” enum where you can say what kind of discussion you want there.

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• Erk@cdda.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I miss forums so much. A federated backend for forums would be nice. I’m so tired of having these giant communities of angry strangers if I want to talk about anything

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• VentraSqwal@links.dartboard.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  In theory, but I used to hate when people would get mad at threads getting brought back from the dead. If the person has a question relevant to the topic, why start a new thread?

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  • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Not as if that was solved by instead having people tell OP to research the answer one of the many (now dead) discussions where the same question was asked!

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  • PickTheStick@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s a culture-thing. I’m a member of two forums that are still pretty active. One views dead thread revivals as amusing, the other almost literally has a celebration in-thread when it happens as all the members with older posts in it come piling in. Heck, the second forum has a thread so active that people literally ask for, and get, recaps for the last X amount of time for it.

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  • AlDente@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Exactly, some people would complain about bringing back zombie threads, while others whine that people didn’t use the search feature to find existing threads on the topic. You can’t win either way with forum gatekeepers.

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• nix@merv.news ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Ironically that’s also lemmy github.com/LemmyNet/lemmyBB

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  • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    😱

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    • nix@merv.news ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Oh yeah i forgot to mention it hasn’t been maintained since the huge influx of users

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