Comment on Tesla sales plunge 40% in Europe as Chinese EV rival BYD's triple

• drmoose@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  What a defeatist take.

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• Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Every new car is a piece of shit spy ware device that collects and sells your data

  Fuck me, it has to be sad living in this paranoid state…

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  • Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Ignorance is bliss I guess? New cars are pretty much computers on wheels that collect data. This is not a secret or anything.

    I mean, fuck China and the genocide of the Uighur. It’s terrible. But I’m pretty confident that capitalism killed a whole lot more people throughout history.

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    • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      New cars are pretty much computers on wheels that collect data

      There’s a difference between what telemetry a German car gathers, and what a Chinese car gathers. And where is it sent.

      The data from EU companies is anonymised and private. The data from Chinese companies is always available to their government.

      I mean, fuck China and the genocide of the Uighur. It’s terrible. But I’m pretty confident that capitalism killed a whole lot more people throughout history

      Ah, I guess it’s fine then. Since throughout history more people died because of capitalist policies, then we can support China with a clear conscience!

      I do 100% agree with this, though:

      Ignorance is bliss I guess?

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      • DistrictSIX@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        The data from EU companies is anonymised and private. The data from Chinese companies is always available to their government.

        Just trust me bro, the EU respects you but the Chinese are out to get you. The same EU that still has a special trade agreement with the genocidal Zionists, and is their biggest trading partner. The same continent that colonized and enslaved much of the rest of the world for centuries.Those are the good guys that you should implicitly trust, no proof needed you paranoid dummy. The red Chinese, they’re the scary ones. Fear them.

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      • Ekpu@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Haha, tell that VW who stored positional data with full precision against their own rules (the CCC Chaos computer Club did a good presentation about this).

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• 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Or… live in a place or advocate for a place where spyware cars arent a necessity for simply existing…

  When something is 100% required for life, someone WILL exploit it

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  • Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Where is that?

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  • Zetta@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Hey, man, I’m right there with you. I’m not planning on buying a new car unless I’m 100% confident I can disable or remove all of its networking and spyware services. I’m just stating that it’s stupid that the average American will buy a new car and then say this shit about these cars just because they’re Chinese.

    Honestly a Chinese car spying on you probably has less negative impact on your life vs any other brand that does business with American companies, of course assuming you yourself are american and live in America.

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