Comment on Intel details everything that could go wrong with US taking a 10% stake

• grue@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Literally illegal. Only AMD and Intel have the patent cross-licensing rights to make x86 chips. There used to be a third company (Cyrix and subsequently VIA), and (maybe?) still is, but it hasn’t been relevant to the desktop CPU market in decades.

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  • Jason2357@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    We don’t need competition in the x86 space, we need competition in the mobile/desktop/server space. That could easily be performance competitive ARM or RISC-v or whatever. Better even with diversity of design.

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    • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Enterprise ARM servers exist, I’ve used them, they’re neat.

      With a proper stack you don’t even notice they’re arm

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  • Mertn33@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Or riscv

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• bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Heck of an industry to break into.

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• muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Competitor is already here. Apple and Ampere are making ARM systems that fit most users needs. There are ARM servers. But people don’t want to switch.

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  • pycorax@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Apple doesn’t really exist as a competitor for a number of industries and use cases due to not officially supporting anything other than OSX so I’m not sure if they’re a fair comparison here.

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    • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They do fine with content creation. Windows 11 has been such a bear many are moving back, and the m-series mac mini is a surprisingly capable little box that’s not offensively priced.

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  • VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’d buy a macbook, but it’s a lot more expensive than my “throw Linux on a used corporate thinkpad” approach, and I can tolerate macOS, but don’t love it. If you’re in the market for a new premium laptop, I think they’re pretty established, and I do think people are buying them.

    Ampere workstations are cool, but in a price range where most customers are probably corporate, and they’ll mostly buy what they know works. I think their offerings are mostly niche for engineers who do dev work with stuff that will run on arm servers.

    I’d say non-corporate arm adoption will grow when there’s more affordable new and used options from mainstream manufacturers. Most people won’t go for an expensive niche option, and probably don’t care about architecture. Most Apple machines probably sell because they’re Apple machines, not because of the chip inside.

    I don’t know exact numbers, but I do feel that arm server adoption isn’t going to badly, especially with new web servers.

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    • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I wouldn’t buy a used Lenovo right now. There’s a lot of 13th/14th gen Intel trash blowing around out there right now that’s been silently damaged already. There are Ryzen based Lenovos but those aren’t as common.

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      • VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Probably applies to most used Laptops right now. Also, I have some thinkpad nostalgia, but the similar skus from other manufacturers will also do, though they put course have the same problem.

        Generally, you of course always need to research the specific hardware. Also, my current one is on 8th gen, still does the job for now.

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    • BurntWits@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I own an M1 MacBook. I don’t use it nearly as much as my main pc (gaming laptop with CachyOS (Arch-based, btw)) but it’s very well built and is well optimized. If I could get the build of a MacBook but with the specs of my gaming pc without spending 2x the price as I would on a pre-build windows machine I would absolutely do it.

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• CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Would TSMC be considered a competitor to AMD?

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  • grue@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No. AMD is fabless; TSMC doesn’t design chips. They’re in different parts of the supply chain.

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• dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  yup, named RISC-V

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