any1th3r3@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
And still no OLED screen… why Framework, why?
I got one of the latest Framework 13 a couple months ago for work, and while I’m happy about the prospects of future repairability and upgradability down the line, it’s not a great laptop given its pricepoint.
The build is subpar, with the screen flexing a ton, the keyboard and trackpad are lacklustre and pretty uncomfortable, but the worst is the screen, it’s dim, with poor colour reproduction and 3:2 is frankly not for me. And fractional scaling is a mess with XWayland, while it was much better on my 2019 XPS 13.
I love what Framework are pushing for and actually achieving, but tradeoffs are very much at play. I’m hoping for an OLED screen replacement in the near future though.
I’ve yet to use an OLED monitor that didn’t make text look shitty and I’ve used $1000+ OLED displays with high ratings.
Don’t get me wrong, OLED colors and blacks are gorgeous. I love OLED.
Even my Samsung Pro whatever latest laptop with an OLED display…the text just looks off. Which was disappointing because my Samsung phone text is fine.
LG C2/3/4, also gross looking text.
Alienware OLED $750+ monitor? Text was bad.
I love OLED but I’ve yet to find one that works for productivity.
Almost all OLED displays use a different pixel layout than traditional LCD displays. And sub pixel font rendering is designed for the standard LCD layout. Depending on your OS you may be able to configure the font rendering to look better on most OLEDs. But some people are just more sensitive to this as a problem.
Yeah, unfortunately I might be one of those people. I can also see some monitors flickering which gives me a headache in sub 3 minutes.
It’s a curse. Especially with in-office pairing.
I think that’s PWM dimming vs DC dimming.
PWM dimming turns pixels on and off to make them darker. So for 50% of the brightness, it’s off 50% of the time. Higher end panels flicker much faster which helps mitigate perceived flicker. I think 500hz and above is preferred.
For DC dimming is just using voltage to control the darkness with no flickering involved.
I have a friend who has always been picky about displays, I thought he was just being nit picky
Since normally my eyes can’t distinguish between 480 and 1080 under normal circumstances and flicker goes un noticed
Aren’t phone screens AMOLED? I’m definitely not an expert, but I thought it was a variation of OLED, which would explain why text looks better.
That being said, I also have an OLED Steam Deck and I can read text on it just fine if the scaling is set correctly in the game or just browsing the web normally in desktop mode.
Ah, true, thanks for the correction.
Maybe I’ve just had bad batches of displays? I don’t know. I got 3 really nice Asus ProArts and the text clarity and colors are fantastic.
Still wish I had blacker blacks.
Yep, text is definitely not handled well on most OLED monitors (or TVs) because of their pixel substructure. It’s usually been better on Linux for me and I essentially don’t notice it anymore, but I also haven’t used Windows in years so I can’t compare.
Hmm, I am working on converting all my things over to Linux so maybe I’ll give it another shot.
Windows always has this weird ghosting going on, super odd.
Did you turn on PC-Mode with your LGs?
I use an LG nanocell TV as an pc monitor and the fonts didn’t look good until I set the HDMI input type to PC. And ofcourse you need to play around with the font rendering tools like ClearType in Windows.
OLED does not belong on a computer.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
The good thing: You will probably be able to swap it once they make it available.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 17 hours ago
I really don’t see it happening considering you would likely just be replacing the whole chassis. I see an OLED in the future, just not a swappable one.
BombOmOm@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
You can buy individual displays directly on framework’s website and swap them into even their oldest laptop. If they make OLED versions in the future, it will be the same: a display swap.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 15 hours ago
Wow, til. Thanks homie!