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• Dewe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Which ‘Italian heritage immigrants’? Are you saying pizza is an American invention?

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  • MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Not OP, but maybe they’re alluding to the fact that tomatoes were exclusively native to the Americas, so pizza in Italy never even had tomatoes before 500 years ago. A quick Google search shows that the first modern pizzas came from Naples about 300 years ago. So no, not American, but not possible without moving tomatoes from the Americas.

    Italian immigrants brought pizza to America and it caught on.

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    • Rusty@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Chili peppers are native to Americas too, by that logic Thai, Indian, Korean, Ethiopian and Szechuan cuisines are American too?

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      • MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        No? Like I said, Italian immigrants brought pizza to America. They didn’t come to America and then invent pizza. Trade routes brought chili peppers to those areas and they did new and interesting things with them to incorporate them into their cuisine in fundamental ways. I’m just saying that those dishes are recent, not completely coopted.

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  • kattfisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    America doesn’t even have pizza! They use the word to refer to some kind of large open-faced oven-baked sandwiches.

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You talking bout the little scissors?

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      • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Is that the Piper Perri film?

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  • RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Italians invented the food, americans made it edible.

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  • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yanks do honestly say that lol

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    • friendlymessage@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Are the yanks okay?

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• SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Italians should be more like the Japanese and embrace change and just appropriate those fusion dishes and pretend like they invented it. Like if the Japanese were like Italians salmon sushi would have never become a Japanese dish. Before Norwegian salmon farmers came to Japan to convince Japanese chefs to sell raw salmon in the 80’s, salmon sushi didn’t exist since wild salmon often contains parasites. If the Japanese were like Italians they would have scoffed at the idea to sell and eat salmon sushi.

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  • JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yes the Japanese, famous for there embrace of change!

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    • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Well compared to the Italians the Japanese are super progressive especially in their culinary development , they still have their traditional dishes but also are trying new things even with their traditional dishes.

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  • buffing_lecturer@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    huh TIL

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