Comment on Germany Will Force 80% of Gas Stations to Install EV Charging, Too

menemen@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• letsgocrazy@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You mean by making petrol stations have EV charging points?

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  • ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Imagine thinking people are going to wait 30 minutes to charge for work. Putting charge stations at gas stations is stupid and will never work. They already get long lines during busy periods when if takes 3 minutes to fill.

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  • menemen@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Where you still wait 30 minutes and pay much more than those charging at home.

    So: no. That is not what I mean. That is a shitshow.

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• ViewSonik@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  While I agree, it is much easier to bring in charging stations to gas stations where infrastructure is already built out. It seems like a near-term win with the long-term option for flat integration/power connectivity

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  • Michal@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The electric infrastructure is the whole grid. I’d argue apartment complex are better prepared for the increased power use than a gas station and is more convenient a location than gas station.

    What are you going to do while waiting for your car to charge? At least at home you can go… home. Shopping centres are a close second. You can do your shopping while you’re charging. Parking spaces and grid are already there.

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    • gian@lemmy.grys.it ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’d argue apartment complex are better prepared for the increased power use than a gas station and is more convenient a location than gas station.

      They solve different problems: in the apartment complex you charge during the night for the daily usage while at the gas station is for the longer drives.

      And while charging, at least in Europe, you can simply eat your lunch at the station restaurant/fast food/self service/whatever

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    • sturmblast@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      that’s assuming these things actually work I keep picturing the scenario where you pull up to a gas station in the air pump doesn’t work while you’re trying to inflate your tire

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    • ViewSonik@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Im guessing but I bet it is mostly due to the local infrastructure. It is easier to run electrical and install new chargers at a place of business versus residential. The infrastructure at a business is built to expand unlike parking spaces at an apartment complex. You cannot easily tear up the concrete and install electrical when hundreds of families are sleeping or getting home from work

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      • baru@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You cannot easily tear up the concrete

        Concrete near houses is wasteful. In NL stones are used instead. Installing a charger is easy. There are loads and loads of chargers. In my city they are at most 50 meters apart from each other.

        I completely disagree with pretty much everything you said based upon how NL does it. It’s easy, it doesn’t take a long time, it doesn’t affect anyone sleeping, etc.

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• gacorley@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I mean, if you live in a flat without your own parking space, I'd expect you're taking public transportation most of the time. If you don't own a car in the first place, there's no need to convert you in the first place, at least if you have no reason to need a car.

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  • ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s a terrible assumption. Many people live in an apartment and street park.

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    • gacorley@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      In Germany? I was under the impression that Germany had much better public transport than we have in the States.

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  • PerCarita@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Do you live in Swabia? You sound like you live in Swabia.

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    • gacorley@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I live in Wisconsin, in the United States.

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• vapeloki@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I get your point. But to be fair: for landlords where massive subventions in place. This program ended amd was not renewed because of lack of interest.

  But at least for new buildings, a policy to force charging stations at every parking lot would be a good idea

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  • menemen@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That is why it should be solved by our politicians. They cannot always leave the main burden to the lower middle class…

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