Comment on SpaceX says states should dump fiber plans, give all grant money to Starlink

• Cocodapuf@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Uh, how often are you using the Internet to connect to a computer in your home town? Maybe 5% of the time?

  I’ve never used Starlink, but with a basic understanding of geography and optics, I’m going to bet that in most scenarios the latency difference between Starlink and fiber is negligible.

  That said, I’m not suggesting Starlink is a realistic replacement for fiber, just that latency isn’t the big issue.

  source

  • ubergeek@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨minute⁩ ago

    Living right near a massive CX that services the US-Canada border… most times.

    source
  • randompasta@lemmy.today ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Much more frequently than you think with CDN endpoints.

    source

    • Cocodapuf@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Ok, so actual question, How useful are CDN endpoints these days with https everywhere? Because you can’t cache encrypted content. Also you can’t cache live content like video calls or online games. I’d imagine the percentage of cacheable content is actually fairly low these days. But like I said, I don’t actually know the answer to this, i’d be curious to hear your take.

      source

      • ubergeek@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨minute⁩ ago

        Netflix and Amazon Outpost makes it quite useful.

        source
      • randompasta@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        HTTPS / TLS has little to do with it. Don’t think of the endpoint as a cache between you and the origin. The DNS name given to the endpoint is the origin from your browser’s perspective. How content gets cached on the backend is irrelevant to the browser. Live video that someone else in your area is also watching is cacheable. Images to load a page, very cacheable. The personal stuff is mostly HTML specific to you but that’s quite small.

        source
      • Xylight@lemdro.id ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        HTTPS can in fact be cached, and most modern browsers will do so unless given a header or something to tell it not to.

        Source: Devtools network tab + developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/…/Caching

        source
  • Anivia@feddit.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I live near DE-CIX and have fiber. So a decent chunk of web services I use is available with a latency of under 5ms. And everything else hosted in a European datacenter with under 20ms.

    So almost all of my internet traffic has a lower latency than starlink has under ideal conditions

    source