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BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  sort of, except the right usually (fucking always) fights to protect the rich. while the left (no Democrats don’t fucking count) fight for equality and improving everyone’s lives.

  so it is a left v right, you just renamed the categories.

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  • Septimaeus@infosec.pub ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    While that truism might annoy lovers of !politicalcompassmemes@lemmy.world it isn’t invalid, historically-speaking.

    Tell me more…

    From their first use in 1789 (long-short: seating positions) the definitions for left and right were fluid, but generally referred to “change” versus “status quo.” In Stalin’s era, left referred mostly to pro-worker policies, the economic change of the communist revolution. That convention was solidified in the US during the red scare, where left-wing came to mean “commie heresy.” After that period, the definition was gradually blurred again, perhaps by conservatives carrying forth the McCarthyist tradition of lumping any non-conformist view into “commie heresy.” Regardless, the resulting confusion in public political discourse is the reason Wayne Brittenden made the Political Compass website in 2001. By canonizing the economic-policy definition used by the Bolsheviks/McCarthyists as an actual X-axis spectrum, and the social-policy definitions of most other contexts as a Y-axis spectrum, one could easily map both dimensions as a cartesian coordinate. Quite handy. Still, as elegant and illuminating as that solution is, it remains a convention.

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    • IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      tbf. those terms have evolved a lot since the French Revolution coined them.

      and given how fluid they are, in some conversations they might mean pure culture war issues like “THERE’S A TRANS FLAG IN COMIC BOOK MOVIE!!!”.

      but we can agree that in the bigger picture, left v right is about a top v bottom in power structures.

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      • Septimaeus@infosec.pub ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Lol true. In fact, I guess always true for any historical use. At least, insofar as established power wants to keep playing the same game and under dog wants to play a different one. Shrug

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• black_flag@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I mean sort of but there are a lot of down folks on the side of the ups and that basically just brings us back to what left vs right always was

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  • BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    This is why more efforts should be spent on helping everyone see that billionaires are the real source of the problem. The rights handbook is just to say the leftist billionaires are the problem.

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      And there is like 2, but they aren’t really on the left, but center right. Every other that labels them as a democratic billion is more right than thst

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