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• commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  the issue was consent. are you conceding that consent is absurd from something that we cannot communicate with?

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  • Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨40⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Animals can communicate with others in their species, meaning that they can obtain and give consent to others of their species. Just because humans cannot communicate with other non-human animals does not mean that the idea of consent is invalid or absurd.

    The fact remains: we cannot receive consent from animals should we want to violate their bodily autonomy. It is always morally unjust to do this. The same is true when people neuter or spay their pets. Humans do this for their own benefit, to avoid behaviors in animals that occur if nothing is done, since not doing so would be inconvenient.

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    • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨35⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      consent must be informed. animals can’t be informed anymore than a door can.

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      • Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨22⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        From humans they can’t. From other animals of their species, yes they can.

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    • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨35⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      The same is true when people neuter or spay their pets.

      at least you are consistent on this point

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    • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨36⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Animals can communicate with others in their species, meaning that they can obtain and give consent to others of their species.

      this is a leap of logic.

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      • Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨21⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        You are a dumbass that knows nothing about biology.

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