Let the Christian-Zionist and Judeo-Zionist lobbying begin.
It came too late for the Al-Jazeera Journalist and hundreds of thousands of Semitic Gazans.
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Rosencrantz23@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Finally. Hope it does some good.
Salvo@aussie.zone 2 months ago
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 2 months ago
Its come so late, but the lobbying and propaganda is always an ongoing threat Australia needs to be alive to. Mike Burgess alluded to similar, without naming names a couple weeks ago.
I’d say the crimes committed have reached a breaking point where the propaganda and lobbying of Israel has finally failed to be succcessful in light of the reality.
Its horrible that we couldn’t have the moral courage to be more decisive earlier, and act in the interests of humanity. This is a failing we own as Australians.
zero_gravitas@aussie.zone 2 months ago
It’s not about lobbying, it’s that the USA owns Australia.
Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 months ago
And yet the US is sticking with Palestine while we’re pretending not to.
It’s not about the US, Israel is capable of being shitty on its own.
zero_gravitas@aussie.zone 2 months ago
It won’t.
If they thought it would do any good, then they wouldn’t have the spine to do it.
We know they don’t have the spine to do anything with any practical effect, because otherwise they would have done it by now. They could have instituted broad trade sanctions, or prevented the export of military goods including F-35 parts and steel armour plating.
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 2 months ago
Well, what are the costs of moves like those. I’m working on a moral and humanist calculus, Albanese may be partially working on that, but he’ll also be working from a political calculus.
The US has made it pretty clear that Israel is their favourite protectorate. If, as you say in another comment, we are owned by the US, then does that mean in the heirarchy of protectorates we are lower than Israel and therefore likely to seriously damage our standing with the US by imposing arms sanctions? And what does that mean for Australian military defence? And technology supply?
For one thing, we’d have to be ready for massive and disproportionate responses from the fascists in charge in the US. Is our defence establishment ready for that? Our population psychologically ready for that?
I’m proposing these, not as my values, but to demonstrate that this is more complicated for the politicians than for ordinary people. PK on Politics Now podcast had a good discussion on this last week.
Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 months ago
I’ll take the US ire over being a spineless shithole country like we are.
Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 months ago
Yeah, playing realpolitik is an excuse that can only get you so far. When there’s genocide involved, and various other war crimes involved in executing that genocide (including murdering aid workers and journalists), that excuse goes out the window.
Ilandar@lemmy.today 2 months ago
Good points, it is easy forget that a lot of the big IR issues are associated with the US and can have significant knock-on effects as a result. I do find realpolitik quite sickening when applied to human rights issues, though.
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 2 months ago
It is. Theres a point in things where you have to say as a nation we’re willing to wear the consequences of our convictions.
Its a shame that i feel that Australians aren’t willing to accept costs like those for what i still believe are broadly held convictions about how we want to live in the world.
Taleya@aussie.zone 2 months ago
If ever there was a time to not be the US’ lapdog, it’s fucking now.