Prox@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Isn’t this true of like everything AI right now?
We’re in the “grow a locked-in user base” part of their rollout. We’ll hit the “make money” part in a year or two, and then the enshittification machine will kick into high gear.
We’re in the “grow a locked-in user base” part of their rollout.
An attempt at that. It will be partially successful but with AI accelerators coming to more and more consumer hardware, the hurdles of self-hosting get lower and lower.
I have no clue how to set up an LLM server but installing github.com/Acly/krita-ai-tools is easily done with a few mouse clicks. The Krita plugin handles all the background tasks.
I doubt it, LLMs have already become significantly more efficient and powerful in just the last couple months.
In a year or two we will be able to run something like Gemini 2.5 Pro on a gaming PC which right now requires a server farm.
Current gen models got less accurate and hallucinated at a higher rate compared to the last ones, from experience and from openai. I think it’s either because they’re trying to see how far they can squeeze the models, or because it’s starting to eat its own slop found while crawling.
Those are previous gen models, here are the current gen models: cdn.openai.com/pdf/…/gpt5-system-card-aug7.pdf#pa…
That’s one example, but what about other models? What you just did is called cherry picking, or selective evidence.
Yeah, it’s basically like early days of cable, Uber, Instacart, streaming, etc. They have a lot of capital and are running at a loss to capture the market. Once companies have secured a customer base, they start jacking up the prices.
in this case there isnt customer base for AI, only ceo and c-suites are.
There are billions of free users available. All they need to do is strip-off few excellent features of their free model and hide it behind a pay wall annnnd voila these free users have now became their paying customers!
hitmyspot@aussie.zone 20 hours ago
That’s the usual business plan. However, people don’t really like ai. The results aren’t great, so, if they jack up the price, people will likely cancel. The lock in is poor as the product and convenience is poor. It doesn’t really save money as promised.
ch00f@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
The usual business plan is to reinvest all earnings into growth. So you’re losing money, but gaining market share. Tesla, Amazon, etc all did this. They could stop at any point and turn a profit, but they chose to pursue a growth instead.
AI companies are currently not making enough revenue to even cover their operating costs. Even so, they are pouring all of their money into more video cards that, once installed and configured, immediately start losing money.
Velypso@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
If people dont like ai, why do all of my coworkers and family members constantly reference ai?
Seriously, yall mfs here on lemmy have the strangest social media bubbles.
hitmyspot@aussie.zone 8 hours ago
Do any of them like it enough to pay for it? The figures say no.
I use it daily but I won’t subscribe. It’s like news. Why pay when you can get it for free. (I do subscribe to news outlets, though, but like ai subscriptions, I know I’m in the minority).
There is a specialised ai tool that is useful at my work. It’s got a free tier which does most of the functions and the next tier up is crazy expensive on a per user basis for the amount of time it saves. If there was a reasonable subscription, perhaps I’d subscribe but I assume that a reasonable subscription doesn’t cover costs, so they’d rather a free user to pump their numbers than lose a subscriber. That yells me it will enshottify over time or they hope that the cost will drop. The problem is that if the cost to host drops a lot, people will self host instead. It’s a rock and a hard place, without a sustainable business model.
thedruid@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Lemmy us pretty much all is use right now. I don’t know anyone espousing a. I.
It ain’t a social media bubble.
kameecoding@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Brother in christ you literally described a bubble.
TechLich@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Only one source of social media? That kinda sounds like the definition of a social media bubble…
I oughta know, I’m also in the Lemmy only bubble and am completely out of touch with most people.
Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Original predictions had AI taking over 50% of jobs by mid decade. We’re here, and it obviously hasn’t happened. Now, it WILL happen but not on the scale initially imagined, and probably in a much more insidious, gradual way.
Feyd@programming.dev 19 hours ago
Why do you think it will happen?
jkercher@programming.dev 14 hours ago
I took his comment to mean recession from bubble popping.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Once you start asking about AI in regard to specific use cases, I think you’ll find that quickly changes.
My company and I have been running a lot of studies around how and where people find value in these tools, and a LOT of people find LLMs useful for copy writing, doing quick research, data visualization, synthesis, fast prototyping, etc.
There’s a lot of crap that AI is bad at in 2025. Especially the poor in-app integrations that everyone is trying to standup. But there are a lot of use cases where it does provide a lot of value for people.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
oh yeah this shit’s working out GREAT
lavocedinewyork.com/…/when-the-machine-takes-over…
"This is what it must have felt like to be the first person to get addicted to a slot machine. We didn’t know then. But now we do.”
archive.is/Tv4Rr
Mr. Moore speculated that chatbots may have learned to engage their users by following the narrative arcs of thrillers, science fiction, movie scripts or other data sets they were trained on. Lawrence’s use of the equivalent of cliffhangers could be the result of OpenAI optimizing ChatGPT for engagement, to keep users coming back.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
All I’m saying is that is you ask people about AI with no use case, you’re going to get different answers than if you ask people about AI when it’s contextualized to a specific problem space.
If I ask a bunch of people about “what do you think about automobiles,” I’m going to get a very different answer than if I ask “what do you think about automobiles that are used as ambulances” or “what do you think about automobiles instead of mass transit.”
Context will give you a very different response.
hitmyspot@aussie.zone 18 hours ago
Yes, it does, but at the price needed to make it profitable, it’s not desirable.
LLMs are not useless; they serve a purpose. They just are nowhere near as clever as we expect them to be based on calling them AI. However, body is investing billions for an email writing assistant.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 10 hours ago
Price is essentially zero if you just run it locally
woelkchen@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Whether they like it or not, doesn’t really matter. It’s being used everywhere.
Depends. To get information: No. To write big software: No. To write an Excel macro or a browser bookmarklet: Yes.
hitmyspot@aussie.zone 20 hours ago
Yes, but that’s not taking over jobs. It’s a minor convenience occasionally. That won’t justify monthly.pricing they need to turn profitable, not will it have the wide range of applications for.every industry that they hoped for.