Comment on Intel CPU Temperature Monitoring Driver For Linux Now Unmaintained After Layoffs

• Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  ARMs are coming. RISCV are coming.

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  • exu@feditown.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Neither are commonly available in desktop form factors and they usually require custom builds for each board to work.

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  • 9point6@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    And for many x86 will remain an important architecture for a long time

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  • Mihies@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    ARMs are more oriented towards servers and mobile devices for now. Sure, we saw Apple demonstrating desktop use but not much is there for desktops for now. RISC-V is far away, Chinese CPUs are not competitive. It’s coming doesn’t help in short term, questionable in mid term. 🤷‍♂️ Yes, alternatives will come eventually, but it takes a lot of time and resources.

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• Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  If you look at the desktop, there is AMD and there is Apple silicon

  You can get workstations with Ampere Altra CPUs that use an ARM ISA. It’s not significant in the market, more of a server CPU put in a desktop for developers, but it provides a starting point, from which you could cut down the core count and try to boost the clocks.

  There is also the Qualcomm Snapdragon X Plus with some laptops on the market from mainstream brands already (Asus Zenbook A14, Lenovo ThinkPad T14s Gen 6, Dell Inspiron 5441). That conversely could probably scale to a desktop design fairly quickly.

  You’re right that we’re not there, but I don’t think we’re that far off either. If Intel keeled over there would be a race to fill the gap and they wouldn’t leave the market to AMD alone.

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• Mwa@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  There is ARM also found on apple,raspberry pi,Orange Pi but those are SBCS they can always be turned into ARM.
  The only problem with ARM its a closed ISA like X64.
  And note that the raspberry pi and orange pi is a SBC. The only Problem with both ARM AND RISC-V They are RISC not CISC like x64 so better power consumption with lower clock speeds.

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  • Mihies@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    RISC is perfectly good for desktops as demonstrated by Apple. Microcontroller chips are suitable for light desktop tasks, they are nowhere near modern x64 CPUs. For now.

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    • Eknz@lemmy.eknz.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It doesn’t really make much of a difference on modern CPUs as instructions are broken down into RISC-like operands even on CISC CPUs before being processed to make pipelining more effective.

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      • LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        This is the correct answer. Modern x86 (x64) is a RISC CPU with a decoder that can decode a cisc isa.

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      • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yeah if you build a RISC processor directly you can just save the area needed for instruction decode.

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      • Mihies@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        From what I remember one of problems with CISC is that it has variable length instructions and these are harder to predict since you have to analyze all instructions up to the current one wheres for RISC you exactly know where is each instruction in memory/cache.

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    • Mwa@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      alr thanks for the info

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