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MisterFrog@aussie.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

I think you’re forgetting we live under capitalism, every job that can be removed, will be removed.

Automation will only end up being a net positive for society if we radically alter our economic system.

Automation to this level is not the same as industrialisation or the motormobile, we’re not creating nearly enough jobs to offset those that would be lost in the process.

All at a time at which 2 incomes barely covers living expenses for many people, where 1 used to cover a house, a wife and 3 kids.

$4,300 extra over 10 years? Press X to doubt AI will have anything to do with it.

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Eyekaytee@aussie.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

Automation to this level is not the same as industrialisation or the motormobile, we’re not creating nearly enough jobs to offset those that would be lost in the process.

I thought employment rate has been at record lows these last couple years?

All at a time at which 2 incomes barely covers living expenses for many people, where 1 used to cover a house, a wife and 3 kids.

If you take out housing payments/rents as they’re due to the housing crisis that’s definitely not true

If you’re on 2 incomes and struggling with a paid off house you’re doing something wrong

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- MisterFrog@aussie.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  
  I thought employment rate has been at record lows these last couple years?
  
  We are in a service economy, which hasn’t been as exposed to mechanical automation. You think there are still going to be as many jobs in the service industry of we automate it all? You think the market gives two shits about human dignity and keeping us employed?
  
  We’re already shipping as many service jobs as we can to cheaper places. You think this doesn’t have an effect on our future employment prospects?
  
  If you take out housing payments/rents as they’re due to the housing crisis that’s definitely not true
  
  Are you hearing yourself?
  
  If you’re on 2 incomes and struggling with a paid off house you’re doing something wrong
  
  This is such a brain-dead, out of touch take.
  
  How exactly are people, who don’t own a home, supposed to get to that point? With piles, and piles of debt, for houses that have gone up, way, way, way beyond inflation.
  
  If they have no relatives who already own property, they are even more truly fucked.
  
  I moved out of home in 2016. I worked 2 days a week on the weekend while studying. I did not apply for Centrelink and managed to get by because I managed to find a pretty cheap place to rent.
  
  This shit is not possible today. And even in 2016 rent was already starting to become expensive I just got lucky.
  
  Housing is THE problem of our generation.
  
  I’ve managed to get “on the property ladder” but we’re quickly pulling it up behind us for many, many people.
  
  And the fact you think corporations, who clearly do not have humanity’s best interest at heart, will actually drive real wage growth, with AI, is frankly hilarious.
  
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  - Eyekaytee@aussie.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    yes but the housing crisis is a whole problem in and of itself not related to ai
    
    houses were unaffordable and increasingly unaffordable as you said years before chatgpt3.5 was even released
    
    somehow we have a larger population than ever, more immigrants than ever but still
    
    Mr Crost said Australia needed many more skilled tradespeople — including carpenters, electricians and plumbers — if it was to have any realistic hope of meeting the 1.2 million new homes goal.
    
    “We are currently 83,000 tradies short,” he said.
    
    www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-06/…/105614902
    
    if we can get house prices back down i think we’d in far better nick than we were previously
    
    Post-war Australia posed its own set of challenges such as housing shortages, continued rationing, economic instability and general unrest.
    
    …com.au/…/1940s-houses-australia-21692/
    
    lol seems like some things never change
    
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