This is why the left needs to get armed. You disarmed yourself while the right wing continued to buy arms and now your “surprise Pikachu face” that the right is not stopping this…what logic are you trying to lay here?
The left is armed. Lots of us own firearms; we’re just quiet about it because we don’t make guns our whole identity because we’re not fragile man children.
Trust me, right now there is not an appetite for violence. If things keep getting worse sooner or later we will hear more about ICE getting killed. Probably in a year or less since they’re expanding the American Gestapo.
The left owns a tiny fraction of the firearms in civ hands. This isn’t some dig at the left. It should be a wakeup call. I’m sure plenty have me tagged here as 2A nut job because I bring it up when shit like this shows up in the news. I’m strongly on the left and I know a lot of other left leaning people, almost all of them are anti-2a/anti-gun.
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The left… isn’t armed. It’s completely outgunned.
Your last point is of critical importance. The populace as a whole is outgunned. Psuedo-militarized police forces and “law enforcement” organizations have us outgunned. Nobody’s going out shooing unless they have nothing to lose. And right now, just about everyone still has something to lose. The goal is to keep the population comfortable enough not to riot on the streets.
There’s a reason they’re targeting the peaceful working class brown people who have families and still have hope that somehow the system will work and they’ll be returned to their family. Notice how they’re not rolling into the ghettos and trying to clean up the latino gangs where immigrants are definitely hiding. These ICE agents are cowards and bullies who pick on the weak to make themselves feel better.
You just contradicted your first paragraph with your second…they don’t go there because those groups are armed.
The last time the left got armed the police bombed the building in Philadelphia, in 1985. The police and ICE are way more violent now, so I’d wager it would happen again. With ICE’s new budget I assume we’ll see armored carriers and tanks rolling around sometime next year.
Not a reason to not arm yourself. You’re just proving why you should be armed.
shapesandstuff@feddit.org 8 months ago
It’s not that people relied on the right to fight anything - it’s more the fact that none of these manlyman hero “good guys with a gun” ever step up.
The whole point of the criticism of 2A is that every single argument for it is bullshit with no basis in the real world.
SupraMario@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You…you mean other than right now? When the gestapo are growing rapidly and straight up kidnapping people? Right now is the entire argument for it.
This comment is the shit I’m literally talking about. I’m assuming you’re on the left and you see shit like this daily, and probably say fascist are running the show and you still stick your head in the sand.
shapesandstuff@feddit.org 8 months ago
Notice how no civil war is breaking out.
Notice how nobody wants to start a shootout with armed forces?
Notice how the only real world impact of civvies arming themselves is more civvies die?
I’m from a country with sensible gun laws and no gestapo snatching people off the streets. yet we still take to the streets in protest of a far right party blasting past constitutional lines - they’re currently under investigation and potentially to be banned in the future. All without posturing as armed defenders of democracy watching it’s downfall from the sidelines.
SupraMario@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The fuck are you on about? Civil wars happen regardless of the population being armed or not. See Myanmar.
Who is nobody? Cause in the states it’s getting that way soon.
That’s not how that works at all.
Uhh ok? So why the fuck do you give a shit about what happens here in the states? You don’t know the dynamics here at all, and just see what you are fed by your local news.
Cool, we’re trying to do that as well…
Ok let me know how that goes… assuming you actually post where you’re from
Again…the left isn’t armed like the right is. The right wing wants the crap that’s happening here. You’re not making any sense at all.