It’s about the information vacuum. Now every service will get your ID or photo, giving them both age and a whole sort of other metrics to build a profile on you. And yes, Lenny.ca doesn’t know that about me.
Comment on Age Verification Is Coming for the Whole Internet
melroy@kbin.melroy.org 13 hours ago
Hell no. Just use decentralized apps, fediverse etc. It's not about "protecting" children. It's about full control and power. So don't give up.
Jason2357@lemmy.ca 12 hours ago
TheMonk@lemmings.world 11 hours ago
I gotta be honest I thought I’d never be able to quit Reddit. But it was a lot easier when I just did it. If this shit becomes the norm, I’ll back out of a site first time they try that shit and block the site. Maybe I’ll just have to stop using the internet. Wouldn’t that be a net positive on my life. You made me do this, capitalism.
Buelldozer@lemmy.today 11 hours ago
You made me do this, capitalism.
This is a problem with Government not an economic system.
TheMonk@lemmings.world 10 hours ago
But this scene was set by capitalism. The family friendly, market friendly internet is the basis for this entire issue. Yeah, government is the one finally pulling the trigger on sanctioned, total control, but we’ve been surveilled and profiled and censored for decades at this point by countless corporations for ad dollars. We’ve gone through the cycles of outrage and acquiescence and outrage and acquiescence as things have gotten worse and worse—same goes for the quality of politician, all bought and paid for by telecom companies neutering everything we can do to make the market and internet more favorable while the politicians got worse and worse and we began accepting it and just laughing it off.
And here we are. Don’t be fooled, this is 100% at the feet of capitalism.
planish@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
Capitalism runs on top of government. Governments create and enforce the notion that a human, or a fictional human with fractional ownership (corporation), can in turn own arbitrarily large and important objects.
This is often done at the behest of said arbitrarily-large-and-important-thing-owners, who also come up with other similarly terrible ideas to have the government do.
RightEdofer@lemmy.ca 12 hours ago
Sure but it would be trivial for a company to build profiles on people using public apps like Lemmy.
pennomi@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
But not necessarily link it to your other accounts or real identity, which is the point.
Buelldozer@lemmy.today 11 hours ago
The folks who build tracking / id systems would maybe need an afternoon to go from your Lemmy username to your home address. They’d need five more minutes to know your underwear size, your license plate number, and where you slept last night.
queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 hours ago
If it was so trivial why would they even bother making everyone show their IDs?
belit_deg@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Also apps that don’t need servers. Switched to this for staying in touch with family p2p, works surprisingly well keet.io
johntash@eviltoast.org 10 minutes ago
Do they publish their protocol or how it works anywhere? Their site didn’t seem to have much technical info at first glance
Buelldozer@lemmy.today 11 hours ago
Those apps and / or the fediverse itself would get sued into the ground and shut down one app or server at a time. There’s nothing stopping any Governments authorities from going after servers inside their borders and there’s nothing stopping them from “harmonizing” identity verification restrictions among other countries. They’ve already done it once with Intellectual Property law.
This push to de-anonymize the Internet isn’t new either. Microsoft started this back in the oughts with their Passport / Digital-ID program. Google and Meta, along with others, long ago launched their own versions and why you can sign into so many websites with a Google or Facebook account.
It’s generally referred to as IdP and now that the Internet has been fully corporatized, with minor holdouts, you can bet your bippy that the days of anonymous access are ending.
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
If only there was a non-commercial, decentralized way of doing the same thing we are already doing. Perhaps make it free too. Hmmm
Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
You’d need to decentralize the Internet itself. Good luck with that one…
krashmo@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
What do you mean by that? Most of the infrastructure that makes up the internet is owned by like 6 companies.
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
I2p exists
Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 hours ago
Last time I checked, the p!rate bay still exists. In fact there are many of them. Because the website itself is open source. The same could be done with any other site. If one gets taken down, two more pop up in it’s place.