The war is never on their soil? WW1 and 2 and Yugoslavia ring a bell? And Ukraine is a western country too.
They predict that Russia will attack western Europe in 2027, by the way.
npdean@lemmy.today 3 days ago
It is a war industry for the Western countries because the war is never on their soil. It is a defence industry for everyone else.
starlinguk@lemmy.world 2 days ago
npdean@lemmy.today 2 days ago
We are talking about the war/defence industry which is a much newer thing when countries started selling weapons and such to other countries on a large scale and during their own non-war times, like the last 50 years of American history. If countries sold weapons to each other during WW2, it was because they were involved in the war themselves. Nowadays, it is just selling weapons and watching others burn each other down.
Predictions have been going on since forever about so many things. Doesn’t make it any truer. China is going to annex Taiwan, Russia is going to attack Europe, Iran is weeks away from nukes. Funnily, there are no predictions about USA doing stuff.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 day ago
LOL
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 days ago
yeah russia sure is defending the shit out of itself invading ukraine.
I get it, western countries bad, but for fucks sake have a bit of perspective.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yep NATO expansion and coups can go on just so far.
They knew ukraine was a red line bcs NATO nukes there are too close to defend from.
And they are actually defending not only themselves but also the ethnic Russian (ex)ukrainians since nobody in the west cared when the US funded trained and armed the fascists that terrorised them for 8 years. Maybe you get some perspective, I can hear your propaganda nonsense every day in any western MSN.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 day ago
lol, russia invading has gassed nato expansion to countries that never considered it before. Putin’s a better recruiter for NATO than anyone else.
yes, hence the budapest memorandum, where RUSSIA GUARANTEED UKRAINE’S SECURITY IN EXCHANGE FOR THEIR NUKES, YOU GODDAMN DOLT.
sure thing, kremlin mouthpiece. how much do they pay you for suborning your own country? chode
npdean@lemmy.today 2 days ago
NATO expansionism is the root cause of this war. NATO instigated this war and Russia got baited.
higgsboson@piefed.social 2 days ago
lol. only took one comment. Scratch a tankie and a vatnik bleeds?
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Better red than a dirty fascist.
You wolfsangel and swastika wearers will go down the way your granpa’s went the first time.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 days ago
ROFLS you really believe that huh?
even after russia guaranteed ukraine’s security in the budapest memorandum?
wow. amazing.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 day ago
LOL
There hasn’t been a ukraine since the fascist coup where the US regime literally chose who would run that proxy state.
And then broke the Minsk treaties over and over
npdean@lemmy.today 2 days ago
So did USA.
lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 2 days ago
I’ll bite. In the 5 years leading up to Russia invading Ukraine, what did NATO do that warrants such a move by Russia?
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The US/UK NATO have been supporting nazis since WW2.
Operation Aerodynamic specifically for ukraine to cause trouble.
It has always been a strategy and a goal to hurt Russia who they never forgave for beating their fascists.
The horrible Brezinksky doctrine of the US regime followed that line.
" “Even without the Baltic states and Poland, a Russia that retained control over Ukraine could still seek to be the leader of an assertive Eurasian empire… But without Ukraine and its 52 million fellow Slavs, any attempt by Moscow to rebuild the Eurasian empire was likely to leave Russia entangled alone in protracted conflicts with the nationally and religiously aroused non-Slavs"
From 2014 when they fist tried regime change with the horrible Yuchenko:
The Stratfor news web site, which has close links to the American intelligence apparatus, revived this analysis following the recent struggle for power in Ukraine. In an analysis of recent events, Stratfor concludes that the secession of Ukraine not only weakens Moscow with regard to foreign policy, but also, “without Ukraine, Russia’s political, economic and military survivability are called into question.” The Stratfor report continues: “To say Russia is at a turning point is a gross understatement. Without Ukraine, Russia is doomed to a painful slide into geopolitical obsolescence and ultimately, perhaps even non-existence.”
After that the people voted this puppet out since they knew they had been conned.
After which the US sent billions via NED and other ways to destabilise the country and fund fascists.
This led to the coup.