Comment on Gamers Bombard Visa & MasterCard With Emails and Calls Over Steam and itch.io Censorship

TheOrionArm@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• anarchy79@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Talk about completely missing the point. Money processors have no business telling us what we can buy or where.

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  • dzsimbo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Pretty wild how they can literally gatekeep a digital entity.

    Maybe they’ll demonetize Amazon next…

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• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You’ve missed the point entirely.

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  • TheOrionArm@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Please enlighten me.

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    • SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      When you buy a game, doesn’t matter the platform, you pay for it with a credit card. The credit card companies are holding the game platform hostage, saying either they start censoring what games they sell or they lose the ability to process any credit cards for any games at all.
      That is essentially holding a gun to their heads, if they can’t process credit cards they can’t bring in any money and they might as well just close shop and go home because their business is finished.
      You can boycott steam or itch or whatever else, but they all use the same credit card processing systems- Visa, MasterCard, Discover, etc. if they start applying these policies to all game retailers, it will simply become impossible to buy any vaguely pornographic game. Period. Anywhere.

      Thus, boycotting steam or itch is counterproductive. They are victims just as much as the consumers. They have no desire to ban these games, they were happily selling these games a week ago. But when they are being told ‘ban a bunch of low volume games or you cease to exist as a company’ that is what they do.

      Thus, this phone call campaign. It is focusing on the credit card companies, the ones who are actually applying this pressure to game companies.

      It is telling them we do not want them dictating what people are and are not allowed to spend money on. We do not want them to enforce morality. And if they got the impression we did, it’s because a small minority made a couple of phone calls.

      The idea is if 1,000 people call in and complain about the porn game, and 100,000 people call in and complain about the censorship, hopefully they will get the message.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not my job.

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    • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      gestures at the rest of the thread

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• arararagi@ani.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They will go to gog next, genius, they also sell adult games since last year.

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• Rekorse@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Hey now, why stop these people FROM CHANGING THE WORLD?! The stakes are too high gramps!

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  • anarchy79@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You are right, let’s all do absolutely nothing when corporations inch themselves into controlling every aspect of our lives.

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    • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They came for our porn!!!

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      • HalfSalesman@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Do you support incest and rape video games being globally banned from sale? I mean, I can kind get it, its fucked up porn.

        But I don’t like the idea of fictional smut, even if of particularly morally type of porn, gets globally banned (as long as its just fictional obviously).

        What people jork their peanits to as long as no one was actually harmed in its production is none of my or your business.

        Obviously, there is also the chilling effect of letting this slide and the anti-democratic nature of payment processors being the ones enforcing this. But I suspect those are unconvincing to you and you are happy this stuff is harder to get now. Am I wrong?

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  • TheOrionArm@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Nothing like a gaming platform that won’t let you refund your purchases after 2 hours of playtime.

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    • dev_null@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think you are confused about this it works. Steam absolutely does refunds after 2 hours of playtime, it’s just that if you have less than 2 hours it’s automated and you don’t need a reason for the refund.

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      • TheOrionArm@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Still, that gives them the discretion to turn you down.

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      • TheOrionArm@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        My bad.

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    • SoftNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Better than no refunds?

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      • TheOrionArm@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’m looking for something a bit more reasonable. GOG lets you do it within 30 days regardless of playtime I think.

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