Comment on Collective Shout Purge Sees Horror Games In Crosshairs
MagicShel@lemmy.zip 5 days ago
First, I don’t understand why processors give a fuck. Do they imagine people are going to just stop using credit in protest of how other people spend their money? Tell me another fucking joke.
Second, I’m not a game developer, but I suddenly want to make a horror game that includes graphic, exploitive, gratuitous depictions of everything they complain about. And name the game Collective Shriek.
Mirshe@lemmy.world 5 days ago
The worm that keeps getting put into payment processor’s brains is that they might somehow be held criminally liable for games people purchase. It’s like telling a bus driver that they might be liable because they gave a ride to someone who robbed a store.
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 5 days ago
NOW that they’ve started curating, that has become way more likely to actually happen. They could have claimed to be a neutral carrier before. Actively filtering means they’ve decided to take on that responsibility, and the consequences for missing stuff.
They’re morons
pupbiru@aussie.zone 4 days ago
i assume you’re allowed to buy guns with them in the US? that’s WAY more directly attributable
BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Time to sue my credit card company for preventing my purchases, but failing to prevent a purchase that was detrimental to me
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
That’s one way to not understand what I meant, I guess.
prex@aussie.zone 5 days ago
That what I just dont get about this.
If payment processors think they are liable because these games cause harm then where does it stop? Supermarkets sell cigarettes and so on…
Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
I’ve heard this reasoning a few times. I don’t buy it. Illegal content is already illegal. You aren’t allowed to sell it. Policing particular content beyond that doesn’t cover your ass. In fact, it implicates you if you do process payments for illegal content.
I’ve never seen any argument from them that this is the reasoning. The only rule they need is that you aren’t allowed to sell illegal content on your platform. That covers everything. Going beyond that implies there’s a different reason. They’re being influenced by something else other than the law.
bilb@lemmy.ml 4 days ago
I think it actually is more complicated. There are anti obscenity laws in the United States where these companies (Steam and Itch.io, but also Visa, Mastercard, Stripe and Paypal) are based. The way those laws have been applied have been mostly permissive in the recent past, but I think there’s reason to believe that this could change quickly. We may find ourselves in a situation where the highest court decides that this has all been illegal this whole time. Procedural and legal norms are feeling a bit shaky these days. People, including myself, wonder why payment processors would bend over backwards on behalf of some group of weirdos, but maybe being on their good side isn’t the concern at all.
Ulrich@feddit.org 4 days ago
What argument have your from them that is their reasoning?
Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
We don’t know their reasoning. However, we do know their requirement, which is not “no illegal content.” It’s “no content involving rape or incest” or something like that. They have also stated publicly they do not want to be involved in regulating legal content, but, again, that isn’t what they required. If they only cared about illegal content then that’s what their requirement would say, but it isn’t.
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I hate corpos as much as the next guy, but I don’t think that’s a good rule to have.
Saleh@feddit.org 5 days ago
It should also be bullshit in most if not all countries.