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Vespair@lemmy.zip 2 days agoReal people use em dashes — the models were trained on real human output after all — so this new crusade against em dashes as the Mark of Beast for AI has always been and continues to be silly.
Zozano@aussie.zone 2 days ago
Real people use emojis too
Doesn’t explain why AI bots loooooove: 🙃 lists with emojis as list points 💩 Em—dashes—without—spaces 🥴 Weird as hell analogies like: 🦮 “responds to throttle like a golden retriever responds to algebra” 🍆 For the record GPT didn’t write this
Vespair@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
Yeah I’m not defending AI output here, it absolutely follows awful and easily recognizable tropes. I’m just trying to fight against the current “em dash = AI” bullshit because, again, real people use real grammar. And people have been using non-LLM spelling & grammar checks which push syntax like em dashes forever; are we to assume that people suddenly stopped using these non-“smart” tools?
Rally against AI slop all you want, I support you, it’s just the promotion of the dumbed down reductive takes like em dashes or semicolons are indicative of AI.
Zozano@aussie.zone 2 days ago
I should’ve been more precise; em dashes are just a piece of the puzzle, however, the smart tools you reference are normally programmed to convert dashes to em-dashes under the following condition:
Text > space > hyphen > space > text
Unless you go back afterwards and delete the spaces between words, the AI text is going to stand out due to its tendencies to use em-dashes in place of semicolons without spaces—like this.
It does suck that we need to take a reactive approach to dealing with the perception our emails might not be written by us, or…
Take it back by using them anyway, and insisting our messages are legit.
Though, unless AI stops generating text with far less em-dashes, I think this is an uphill battle which isn’t worth our stubborn insistence. though, that really depends on whether it’s important for our messages to seem to be written by us.
For me, where I work, people have become very judgemental (though not everyone knows) when they receive an email heavy with em-dashes.
Vespair@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
Very valid points. And frankly if I’m being honest with myself, I think I know this is ultimately a losing battle, as this is a field where perception is king, and I guess I’m really just venting my frustration with the situation. I think we’re mostly all frustrated with it honestly, but it’s a bell we can’t really un-ring, so here we are. Cheers.