We’ve had a habitable wilderness for all of human existence until now. Dystopian society is now The only option for living in most of the planet. World has not always been this fucked.
We’ve had a habitable wilderness for all of human existence until now. Dystopian society is now The only option for living in most of the planet. World has not always been this fucked.
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 days ago
The Antarctic used to have a giant ozone hole. In the late 1960’s, Lake Erie was dead from pollution. The Cuyahoga River in Ohio was so polluted it caught fire. Rain was so acidic that statues in cities were dissolving.
Read history instead of following social media hype. Despite Trump turning back the clock a few years, the environment has improved dramatically over the past 50 years.
breecher@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Those examples you mention are pretty insignificant compared to the global warming crisis we are experiencing now. Reading history won’t really help, because we have never faced what we have faced now in human history: manmade global warming in an industrialised, highly specialised society.
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 days ago
50 years ago most waterways in the US were so polluted as to be dead to wildlife. Cities buildings were black with pollution.
Global warming is actually minor compared to the immediate death people were facing decades ago. For example unchecked ozone depletion could have resulted in the destruction of all rice crops on Earth. An analogy that comes to mind is the Black Plague vs Covid. It’s not that Covid wasn’t (isn’t) a problem. And like Covid we are deploying modern technology to fix the problems. Solar is being installed everywhere. The US is going backwards temporarily. But the US isn’t the world. Europe and China are getting things done.
People who see the problems are the absolutely not the ones who should be killing themselves. They’re the only ones that can contribute to the future.
someacnt@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Difference is that, those problems had relatively easier solution which was being worked on. This does not hold for global warming, we are not even trying!
Honestly, it’s pathetic that you try to look at things rose-tinted. Is it that hard to accept imminent crisis?
salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 2 days ago
Fine. Until relatively recently, like before mass industrialization.
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Your premise is that it’s going to get a lot worse. But the past 50 years has been improving. It’s therefore reasonable to believe we will keep improving.
breecher@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
That is silly logic.
Also the past 50 years has not been all improvement, the global warming crisis has steadily grown worse to name the most obvious. The economic crisis following the results of that global warming is also just going to get worse. This will lead to more political crises as politics will get steadily radicalised and authoritarian.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I grew up next to the Cuyahoga in the '70s and I don’t think people today could even begin to understand how nasty it really was. Old tires everywhere, rusting steel barrels full of god knows what, and a thick oily scum over any part of it that wasn’t moving. Factories along the edge had big drainage pipes that just emptied directly into the river (one of these factories made Oasis foam, that green shit florists stick flowers into). The real shocker was not that the river caught fire from time to time, but that it wasn’t on fire all the time.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
This is a local observance and an expression of your privilege. That trashed environment didn’t disappear or get rectified, the pollution and heavily polluting industries nec4ssary to support our lifestyles were offshored and exported to poor countries.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Here’s another local observance: you’re a pompous windbag.